My ESAS Craft Name List: For Those Into This Subject!!!

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mattblack

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I've heard through the grapevine that Nasa is looking for 'catchy' names for the boosters and spacecraft for VSE. Here's my 10 cents worth --<br /><br />CLV: "Caesar" or "Centurion".<br /> <br />CALV Heavy-Lifter: "Hercules", "Nova", "Zeus" "Odin".<br /> <br />CEV: "Pegasus", "Ares", "Artemis", "Athena".<br /> <br />LSAM: "Artemis", "Athena", "Eagle", "Ares", "Selene".<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
 
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earth_bound_misfit

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I like, I like (in a Dr. Zoidberg voice <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> ). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>
 
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argosy

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How 'bout Achilles(the biggest greek warrior in Troy) for boosters...
 
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no_way

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How about Porky Pig for SDHLV ? And just for kicks throw in Daffy Duck and Tweety as well for other parts
 
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nacnud

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It's NASA<br /><br />ESAS = Exploration Systems Architecture Study, the NASA study that gave us the Crew Launch Vehicle (the single stick) the Cargo Launch Vehicle or CaLV (SDHLV) and the Apollo style CEV.
 
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discovery_fan

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My favorite names would be:<br /><br />Project as a whole: <br />constellation<br /><br />CLV: Aquila (the constellation Eagle)<br /><br />CALV Heavy-Lifter: Auriga (the constellation The Charioteer)<br /><br />CEV: Altair (the brightest star in Aquila)<br /><br />LSAM: Capella (the brightest star in Auriga)<br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br />
 
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n_kitson

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Good suggestions. I'm in favor of anything but "Enterprise" for the CEV. Let's leave JTK back home... <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />
 
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mattblack

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Some VERY good choices, discoveryfan! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
 
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dragon04

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CEV - Apollo 18<br /><br />I mean, that's what it basically is... I know that sounds awfully cynical and jaded, but I just happen to believe we should be researching <b> next generation </b> spacecraft. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>
 
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mattblack

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They ARE the next generation of spacecraft, the CEV is merely shaped like a proven capsule design, it's internals will be far superior. If the CEV had been a lifting body shape, that would be the only difference in the lunar mission architecture. The boosters and LSAM would look much the same.<br /><br />And if by next generation you mean vehicles for Earth Orbit:<br /><br />1): A new spaceplane would, naturally, look broadly similar to the Shuttle Orbiter, raising moans that Nasa is not "being imaginative enough".<br /><br />2): A new spaceplane would cost so much money and time to develop, they might as well keep 2 of the Shuttles after completing ISS, converting one to a robot cargo ship for supply runs, and keeping the other to carry crew until private industry came up with a newer, cheaper spaceplane or ship like T-Space's CXV capsule.<br /><br />All that would take time and money. And you know what? It would all be for Low Earth Orbit, where mankind has been stuck since 1972.<br /><br />No.<br /><br />It's WAY past time we went somewhere. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
 
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mlorrey

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CLV: PHALLUS COLLOSUS<br />HLV: ABORTUS SHUTTLUS<br />CEV: PHAETON (the son of Apollo that drove the chariot like a madman and was killed by Apollo).<br />
 
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yurkin

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I think I brought this up before.<br />Naming elements of ESAS after Greek or Roman gods is not terribly original. But any name is of course better then none. <br />
 
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mattblack

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If any rocket looks phallic, it is surely the Atlas V!!<br /><br />(Eeeuuww!!) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
 
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SpaceKiwi

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I agree entirely with the rationale news, and even the naming protocol, but I'm not sure they are going to be 'catchy' enough to fire public imagination?<br /><br />Although I personally favour CEV 1 thru 50 (ie, I hope they build too many for individual names!), I think NASA should be a little crafty with this. Name them after the US States, starting with the ones who might be wavering on congressional support of the program.<br /><br />Make a big song and dance of each naming, then pretty soon the inter-State rivalries kick in and it then becomes an issue of every State wanting their own CEV ... QED, funding assured! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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mlorrey

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SpaceKiwi, that is a brilliant idea. Seeing how the states vie to have naval vessels named after them, or cities in those states, and the public enthusiasm for the 50 state US Quarters program, this is a great idea.<br /><br />Here's how NASA should go about it: <br />a) schedule out # of flights each year. At the beginning of the year, rank the states by how much their taxpayers have contributed to NASA, and name the missions vehicles in sequence.<br />b) at the beginning of each year, repeat, excluding only states that have already gotten named after.<br />c) after all 50 state names have been used, go by cities.<br />d) as additional incentive, the states and cities will get to display mockup copies of their vehicle.<br /><br />The downside is that the CEV is supposed to be reusable, and the superstitious people in the public will consider it bad luck to rename a vessel (it is supposed to be bad for ships).
 
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tplank

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I think it is time to pay homage to the first generation of scientists and astronauts that set us on a path for the stars. My vote for the class of rockets would be Goddard and Von Braun. My vote for the class of CEV would be a harder choice (Glenn?). The LSAM class name choice is obvious: Armstrong. The individual ships could be named for fallen astronauts initially at least.<br /><br />The S.S. Grissom, S.S. White and S.S. Chaffee sounds perfect to me for the first three CEVs (whatever the class name). Not only does this make sense, it is great PR for NASA.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>The Disenfranchised Curmudgeon</p><p>http://tonyplank.blogspot.com/ </p> </div>
 
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