NASA`s UFO VIDEO

[twocanntwo]

Thought you all might like to see this,here`s the link<br /><br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9080369676973948865&q=ufo

 

[skyeagle409]

<br />Interesting, but I have known for years that astronauts and cosmonauts knew they were being tracked by UFOs and that NORAD tracks UFOs in space on a regular basis. Even X-15 pilots reported UFOs as well and they all can be added to the list of those who have encountered or reported intelligently controlled UFOs such as astronomers, military and airline pilots and air traffic controllers worldwide. <br /><br />Even intelligence, military and government officials are confirming the reality of intelligently controlled UFOs and some of their comments can be view here. <br /><br />http://www.disclosureproject.org/<br /><br /><br />Just before his death, Provost Marshal, Major Edwin Easley, in charge of security at the Roswell crash site, had finally confirmed after years of silence that the Roswell incident did indeed involve exterrestrial beings. His confirmation is what Air Force officers and scientist at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH have saying for years, that some UFOs are "interplanetary spaceships" (1948, Project Sign, EOTS, Wright-Patterson AFB) and that was stated in addition to the confirmation by a former commanding general of Wright-Patterson AFB that ET beings and their spaceships were brought to his base for examinations. <br /><br />http://www.cufos.org/ros6.html<br /><br /><br /><br />People are talking and it's time we listen. <br /><br /><br /><br />

 

[ag30476]

Yeah the's proof positive that ET are little shiny objects moving in orbit near the shuttle and the Russian space station. Be afraid. Be very afraid.!

 

[colesakick]

Seriously, I think what we saw was debris moving pretty much randomly. As usual, where ever humans go they leave a mess behind (urine, grey water, etc…), even in outer space. I’d have been impressed if the objects seemed to show some affinity for the crafts, but there was none, total indifference. When directions are seen to change radically, most likely one piece of ice is simply bouncing off another.<br /><br />I didn’t see anything suggestive of intelligent life in the behaviors of the debris.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Intellectual honesty means being willing to challenge yourself instead of others </div>

 

[ag30476]

> You are making fun of the video and audio right?<br />Come on, you gotta laugh at this stuff.

 

[skyeagle409]

ag30476---Yeah the's proof positive that ET are little shiny objects moving in orbit near the shuttle and the Russian space station. Be afraid. Be very afraid.! <br /><br />sky---Astronauts and cosmonauts have stated time and again that UFOs have tracked them.<br /><br /> Perhaps, you should get with the astronauts and cosmonauts who made such claims and let them know they don't know what they are talking about just as the skeptics told me that I didn't know what I was talking about prior to 1994 when I claimed that no weather balloon was involved in the 1947 Roswell incident.<br /><br />Well, guess what happened in 1994?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

 

[skyeagle409]

shuttle_guy---Yeah, I guess so but some people actually see alien spacecraft when it is just a flake of paint or ice..... <br /><br />Shuttle,<br /><br />Typical of ice particles in space.<br /><br /><br />http://www.nicap.org/walker.htm

 

[skyeagle409]

shuttle_guy---The subject is video taken from the Shuttle Orbiter. Everything I saw was was typical of debris from the Orbiter itself. <br /><br />sky---We usually call it, FOD. Note that one object conducted a right-angled manuever, which is not indicative of FOD. I also found it amusing in another shuttle video that someone claimed an object, which sat stationary for a period of time and then suddenly maneuvered right-angle away from another object, was an ice particle. I guess certain ice particles exhibit certain maneuvers characteristics only when video taped.<br /><br />Anyway, astronauts and cosmonauts have reported UFOs during their own space missions and they were not talking ice particles either. Sketptics spend too much time in ridicule mode instead of doing what they should be doing and that is, investigating that for which they ridicule.

 

[mkofron]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Typical of ice particles in space. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />When you look towards a window where sunlight is shining through and you see tiny objects floating around, do you see minature UFOs or dust?

 

[skyeagle409]

mkofron---When you look towards a window where sunlight is shining through and you see tiny objects floating around, do you see minature UFOs or dust? <br /><br />mkofron,<br /><br />I am not going to vouch for all of those particles but I find the one that conducted a right-angle turn very interesting. As I've said earlier, astronauts, cosmonauts and some X-15 pilots have already stated they've encountered UFOs in flight and once again, they were not talking ice particles nor FOD.<br /><br />

 

[ag30476]

Look sky <br />1) I was talking about the video - did you see it?<br />2) Astronauts and cosmonauts - that's an garument from authority, it doesn't wash - astronauts and cosmonauts are known to be wrong in their perceptions too - do you know of the times when it is known that their perceptions were wrong<br />3) Roswell and the weather balloon - get off the one-trick pony of yours will you - what does that have to do with the video in question<br />4) What happened in 1994? Who the hell cares - take a look at the video and then give an opinion.<br /><br />Simple question for you - does the video show debris or ET UFO's?

 

[skyeagle409]

ag30476---Look sky <br /><br />1) I was talking about the video - did you see it? <br /><br />sky---Yes I saw and some of those objects are not behaving as ice particles especially the one that conducts a right-angled maneuver and note, there are no flashes to indicate thruster operations and given the fact the objects did not hit something to change their flight paths in space, is a clear indication the objects are intelligently controlled..<br /><br />ag30476---2) Astronauts and cosmonauts - that's an garument from authority, it doesn't wash - astronauts and cosmonauts are known to be wrong in their perceptions too - do you know of the times when it is known that their perceptions were wrong <br /><br />sky---If an object is trailing a spacecraft and ground-base trackers confirm the UFO is not that if any satellite nor booster, then we can safely assume the UFO is not space hardware of ours. That has been the case on some NASA missions and once again, ice particles had nothing to do with the astronaut's sightings that were also confirmed via ground tracking stations so this is not a case of mistaken identity on the astronaut's part especially when ground trackers confirmed that a UFO was in the vicinity of their spacecraft. <br /><br />ag30476---3) Roswell and the weather balloon - get off the one-trick pony of yours will you - what does that have to do with the video in question <br /><br />sky---I bring that up from time to time to make a point that we are not alone and that skeptics tend to overlook important aspects relating to UFOs, whether it concerns Roswell or the objects in the videos. <br /><br />ag30476---Simple question for you - does the video show debris or ET UFO's? <br /><br />sky---Not all, but I find the object that maneuvers very interesting and others that shoot across the screen. Unless there were astronauts throwing ice particles in front of the video screen at high speed from the sidelines, then you need to come up with another explanation than just ice

 

[skyeagle409]

ag30476---Simple question for you - does the video show debris or ET UFO's? <br /><br />sky---In some segments, definitely not debris or ice particles because the objects are maneuving, which once again, is not indicative of FOD.<br /><br />You should have also noted that the Mir space station is practically indistinguishable from the other flying objects that zoom across the screen yet you can't claim the Mir space station is an ice particle in that particular video segment.<br /><br />If the controller had said nothing about Mir in the video, I am very sure I would have been hit with the 'ice particle' claim. In anther segment, another object passes hehind the Mir space station and that definitely wasn't an ice particle nor FOD.<br /><br />Questions!<br /><br />1. Who is throwing those objects, which clearly are zooming perpendicular to the flight path of the spacecraft, from the sidelines? <br /><br />2. What are setting the objects in motion in the first place, some of which are flyng at high velocities?

 

[ag30476]

> some of those objects <br />some SOME SOME!!!<br /><br />That means <i>some</i> are NOT. <br /><br />I bothered to watch for 5 minutes. Apprently the video maker did not bother to put the "right angle" turn in the first 5 minutes but thought that video of debris was "good enough".<br /><br />That was "good enough" for me to convince me of the "intellectual honesty" of the video.<br /><br />If you were "intellectual honesty" then before defending the "right angle" you would criticize the video and its maker for showing debris and implying it was nothing more than debris. <br /><br /> /> Now, why are they described as "shooting stars" and <br /> /> not ice particles? <br />Who the hell cares at this point - debris is not debris, it's ET or it can be used to add the "wow" factor to a UFO video - it's all the same to you apparently.<br /><br /><br />

 

[skyeagle409]

sky---some of those objects <br />some SOME SOME!!! <br /><br />ag30476---That means some are NOT. <br /><br />sky---Some are not that convincing to me.<br /><br />ag30476---I bothered to watch for 5 minutes. Apprently the video maker did not bother to put the "right angle" turn in the first 5 minutes but thought that video of debris was "good enough". That was "good enough" for me to convince me of the "intellectual honesty" of the video. <br /><br />If you were "intellectual honesty" then before defending the "right angle" you would criticize the video and its maker for showing debris and implying it was nothing more than debris. <br /><br />sky---I've seen similar maneuvers of objects in other videos that were not the result of ice particles nor FOD but some segments in this video were not convincing enough for me and the reason why I have been concentrating only on certain areas within the video.<br /><br />sky--- Now, why are they described as "shooting stars" and not ice particles? <br /><br />ag30476---Who the hell cares at this point<br /><br />sky---You should care, and care very much because the objects in question are not ice particles nor FOD. They are zooming perpendicular to the camera's point of view and they are not flying within the Earth's atmosphere. Simply dismissing certain objects as nothing more than objects with mundane explanations tend to get certain skeptics into trouble later on when the facts come rolling in and I have posted many classic examples as you may well know by now.<br /><br />Eventually, the time will come when you will know that UFO reality is a fact.

 

[kmarinas86]

People shorten their attention spans as a defense mechanism when they feel they are being brainwashed or when they believe someone is attempting to brainwash them. <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" />

 

[ag30476]

And why do BS'ers lengthen and pas their presentations kmar?

 

[kmarinas86]

<font color="yellow">And why do BS'ers lengthen and pas their presentations kmar?</font><br /><br />http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Apas<br /><br />Definitions of pas on the Web:<br /><br /> * (ballet) a step in dancing (especially in classical ballet)<br /> wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn<br /><br /> * PAS can stand for...<br /> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAS<br /><br /> * Performance analysis System<br /> www.usdoj.gov/ag/annualreports/summary2001/01gloss.htm<br /><br /> * Protected Areas Strategy.<br /> wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/ske/pas/glossary.htm<br /><br /> * Public Affairs Section<br /> kampala.usembassy.gov/glossary.html<br /><br /> * A source file written in the Pascal programming language. It should be in simple ASCII and (depending upon how portably it was written) should be usable on any machine with a Pascal compiler.<br /> www.saugus.net/Computer/Extensions/Letter/P/<br /><br /> * [pah zhuh-TAY] Throwing step. A jump from one foot to the other in which the working leg is brushed into the air and appears to have been thrown. There is a wide variety of pas jetés (usually called merely jetés) and they may be performed in all directions<br /> www.howard.ocps.net/teachers/leeds/2003/Sarah%20and%20Stuff/VOCABULARY.html<br /><br /> * A single step or combination of steps forming a dance;<br /> www.dance4it.com/terminology.htm<br /><br /> * A group of interacting and structurally related basic helix–loop–helix (bHLH) transcription factors.<br /> http://www.nature.com/nrm/journ</safety_wrapper

 

[ag30476]

I apologize for the typo but I meant 'pad' (as in make longer) as almost anyone else could would have understood by the context. <br /><br />Next time, save yourself the trouble and write 'pas?'...but then again maybe you had fun...

 

[kmarinas86]

A presentation that is deemed too long or padded is deemed as a BS presentation.<br /><br /><font color="yellow">And why do BS'ers lengthen and pad their presentations kmar?</font><br /><br />Why does a BS'er make such presentations? Because by definition <i>a BS'er creates BS</i>. A BS presentation is an instantiation of BS.

 

[ag30476]

Man are you dense when you want to be...I asked why do BS'er's pad their presentations> That is BS -> too long. Not perceived as too long -> BS. <br /><br />I have no trouble watching a 30 minute video - if the video is not BS.<br /><br />Notice that I said the FIRST 5 minutes had BS footage. That is the footage was BS not the length.<br /><br />Hence my rhetorical question: why does someone show BS when it is BS. Answer because they are full of BS. <br /><br />The video posted at the start of this thread has nothing new. The shot of the "right angle" turn that sky pointed has been seen by me, by sky, by practically everyone in this forum many times before. You have your interpretation, I have mine, sky has his.<br /><br />Fine. I'll even give you that bit requires some explanation. My explanation is that it necessarily does not involve an ET craft. But I wasn't talking about that.<br /><br />I was talking about the first 5 minutes. Did I just say that? Yes I did. Why? Because maybe you didn't undertstand me kmar. <br /><br />Let me say it again: I was talking about the first 5 minutes of the tape. It shows what is clearly debris. <br /><br />My rhetorical question is: why does the tape show this bit of footage. <br /><br />The answer: because the people who made the tape don't care, they wanted something that would look cool or filler or whatever.<br /><br />Are we clear now? Do you understand? Are there any typos that I may have missed? I don't want you spending 15 minutes looking for some typo on the Internet on my account.

 

[kmarinas86]

My bad. I have barely entered the thread. I think I'll watch the video now.

 

[ag30476]

No prob. Sorry if I got carried away. <br /><br />Fair waring...the vid is a little boring...let's just say it wouldn' make it on the Discovery Channel...