# New Idea #1.Speed of Light

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#### newideas

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I belive I have discovered something faster than the speed of light, and I could have big implications.

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#### MBA_UIU

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Please do tell, and also explain how you measured the speed of this object. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong><font color="#0000ff"><br /><br /> <br /><img id="268587ce-7170-4b41-a87b-8cd443f9351a" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/8/268587ce-7170-4b41-a87b-8cd443f9351a.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /><br /></font></strong></p> </div>

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#### newideas

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The force of gravity is faster than the speed of light. How else could a black hole trap light?

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#### Saiph

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Well, since a BH is a distortion of spacetime...it merely needs to loop the spacetime back on itself, so there are no possible paths through space (or time) from inside the BH, to the outside.<br /><br />The speed of gravity is irrelevant, especially since the speed of gravity is the speed at which changes in the gravitational potential propagate. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

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#### newideas

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All motion is essentially change in anythings relationship to everthing else.

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#### Saiph

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True...but that doesn't mean gravity has to go faster than light to affect it.<br /><br />similar line of thought: A wall affecting a car. the wall does not have to move faster than the car (when observed by a stationary observer), in order to stop the car. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

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#### labguy

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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Basically, some who have not taken hi school physics make wild claims. So far as any standard, widely accept physical theory and well substantiated experimental observation, NOTHING has ever exceeded the speed of light. <br /><br />It's just shocking the poor state of science education when, repeatedly, this issue gets raised by persons with no real understanding of physics, make claims about scientific issues about which they have no education, competency or comprehension. <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote> Truer words were never spoken!<br />

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#### R1

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well actually the claim now is that since around the time of the big bang,<br />everything was travelling faster than the speed of light.<br />(so we all came from somewhere very crowded propelling us into our local reality<br /> which probably used infinite energy to push everything that fast (and<br /> in long term acceleration) or<br /> maybe infinite fuel/energy is not necessary to achieve speeds above C )<br /><br />As of today the universe is in accelarating expanison, isn't it?<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### Saiph

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Is that the one where they used Jupiter and some event to calculate the speed of gravity?<br /><br />If so, the buzz I've heard is that they've just managed to calculate the speed of light again (i.e. their method didn't actually measure gravity's speed, but light's). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

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#### Saiph

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I'm not to good on the details either, but I do remember a conversation with a faculty member along the lines of what I said...or was it a colloqium? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

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#### alokmohan

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Not compatible with well established theory that light and gravity may move in seperate speed.

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#### Saiph

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? which theory is that? GR postulates that gravity moves at C...though offers no really strong support. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

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#### majornature

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Gravity is a force, a weak force, not a speed although gravity accelerates downward to the center. The speed of light is how fast light travels in one year. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#14ea50"><strong><font size="1">We are born.  We live.  We experiment.  We rot.  We die.  and the whole process starts all over again!  Imagine That!</font><br /><br /><br /><img id="6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264" style="width:176px;height:247px" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/4/6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" width="276" height="440" /><br /></strong></font> </div>

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