Well, 12"ers are great, but they are getting to be in the "big project to observe" class.<br />With a 6 or 8 inch dob, I can plop it on the front lawn at sunset, and once it cools down I'm observing. Or I can load it in the car and be driving to a dark sky site in 10 minutes.<br /><br />With a 12 inch, it's probably 2 or three trips to the car, IF it fits. (That is the reason I have a minivan, so I can have everything for meteor observing, and room for a scope besides, whenever needed.) The views are great though. One guy at the observatory has an 18 inch, but it's a project to set it up and take it down. <br /><br />That's what I like about the 6 or 8 inch dob for a first scope. You can see a lot and it's easy enough to use, that it will get used a lot.<br />After all, what good is a great toy if it's a pain to use.<br />If after you've had a small dob for a while you get aperture fever, well then at least you'll know what you'll be getting into, and will underrstand why you want it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>