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NSF article....<br /><br />So, NASA has completed creating an Orion "zero base vehicle", basically one stripped to its basics to get control of the weight issues. Starting at that base they say the goal is to make every kilogram justify itself. It also sounds like safety margins are on the chopping block.<br /><br />With all the time and money spent over the last year or more cutting Orion apart & stitching it back together again you would think <i><b>someone</b></i> would grow a brain and realize the root cause: Ares I is inadequate to the task.<br /><br />If this doesn't prove that a booster change is necessary I don't know what does.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>