Oumuamua observation

[CreatedEvolution]

The last time the comet passed by I had a realization in physics but I’m not sure what it is called.

When you move 100 pounds in a straight line 100 feet. You get a lot of x amount of force that would push on the object.

Now when you spiral that line only reaching 100 feet but 200 feet of path in total. You get a lot less force on the object than moving straight.

If anybody knows what this is called please inform me. I theorize if you reach the speed of light in a tumble or spiral motion. You are actually lengthening you path. Reducing stress on object.

This was my new years post happy new year!!!

My question was does all our space travel involve straight lines or have we explored tumbling or spiral paths?? Please and thank you!

 

[CreatedEvolution]

You could test this with a small weight and some fire works I believe. If the firework designed to spin carries more weight you could assume it can handle a larger load of force against it

 

[billslugg]

Spiral paths are common in the universe. All moving charged particles follow spiral paths around whatever magnetic field lines happen to be present.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Spiral paths are common in the universe. All moving charged particles follow spiral paths around whatever magnetic field lines happen to be present.

I found it fascinating that it is

Spiral paths are common in the universe. All moving charged particles follow spiral paths around whatever magnetic field lines happen to be present.

I was fascinated it was moving 196 000 mph. And it’s spiral path means there is less force on it then just flying straight. I am not sure I’m correct but I found it to be a break through for me. It might actually be nothing because velocity might be a constant… unless it’s tumbling

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I found it fascinating that it is

I was fascinated it was moving 196 000 mph. And it’s spiral path means there is less force on it then just flying straight. I am not sure I’m correct but I found it to be a break through for me. It might actually be nothing because velocity might be a constant… unless it’s tumbling

The point where it’s about to go end over end a portion would have reduced velocity while the opposite side increases in the desired tumble fashion

 

[Helio]

Momentum is simply mass x velocity. The full impact will conme when it is perpendicular to the path (vector). So a spiral path may see an angular impact, but the energy is the same (KE = 1/2 m v^2).

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Interesting. When applying a centrifuge I feel like we can lessen the g force by flight path. Such as a football traveling end over end has diffent speeds of the ball on top rotating backwards then on bottom rotating forwards

 

[Helio]

Interesting. When applying a centrifuge I feel like we can lessen the g force by flight path.

It’s an odd effect but the greater the g force, the more the onbject lifts. The net g force will always include regular gravity.

Such as a football traveling end over end has diffent speeds of the ball on top rotating backwards then on bottom rotating forwards

A tumbling football will always travel less distance because the energy causing the tumbling is taken from the forward motion.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Momentum is simply mass x velocity. The full impact will conme when it is perpendicular to the path (vector). So a spiral path may see an angular impact, but the energy is the same (KE = 1/2 m v^2).

I am talking about surviving faster speed no impact such as a craft weight with water so the occupant always stays on the moving slower side of the craft.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

It’s an odd effect but the greater the g force, the more the onbject lifts. The net g force will always include regular gravity.


A tumbling football will always travel less distance because the energy causing the tumbling is taken from the forward motion.

Reducing its speed what is this effect called

 

[Helio]

I am talking about surviving faster speed no impact such as a craft weight with water so the occupant always stays on the moving slower side of the craft.

I’m having trouble seeing a slower side.

 

[Helio]

Reducing its speed what is this effect called

Braking or simply deceleration.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I’m having trouble seeing a slower side.

The tumble is consistent but the reversed direction would put less force theoretically. This is so to although the ball is tumbling at a constant speed the speed of 1 tip would vary depending on how you measure distance of tumble or total distance of ball

 

[Helio]

The tumble is consistent but the reversed direction would put less force theoretically. This is so to although the ball is tumbling at a constant speed the speed of 1 tip would vary depending on how you measure distance of tumble or total distance of ball

Ok, I think I see. You can divide the football into parts and calculate the energy/momentum for an given instant relative, say to its destination.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I feel like this could be tested with eggs and speed. How much speed will break the egg. Now try a tumbling path and see if the egg can survive maybe with the object full of water so the egg would always be pushed to the slow side

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Ok, I think I see. You can divide the football into parts and calculate the energy/momentum for a given instant relative, say to its destination.

Yes but I am an amateur just wondering what that reverse direction traveling forward is called?

 

[CreatedEvolution]

You could build a spring system. Using a giant crank. crank back a spring then see if you can reach torque that will burst egg. When speed is reached where egg is burst I want to try to switch to a stick that will launch with the egg on the top end.

The length of the stick matters because being pushed one direction really fast will hopefully break the egg. While fling the egg at the same speed I hope the egg will survive due to its path being lengthened.

My theory is if the eggs tumbling motion helps disperse pressure. Then the egg will be able to travel at higher g force with its path lengthened but destination remains the same.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

This would work because being launched straight in a spear the path is not lengthened or weight dispersed. Now if that initial spring move an egg on an opposite end of a stick longer distance by the spring action that the pressure will also be reduced.

You can calculate it by this 1 spring is only 1 foot long per. Moving the egg in a fraction of a second a short distance. Now when that 1 foot spring moves an egg on 4 foot stick. The egg would now have a 3 foot initial total pressure speed. The stick would have the bottom by the spring and the egg at top where its initial acceleration is lengthened.

I am not sure this will work but again I might be able to test this. This would be handy in space travel but I’m still hoping they ask for volunteers to go to the moon or mars.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

The spring could be stationed just above the bottom of the stick where the bottom of the spring machine is notched to send the stick end over end. Basically it will be touching the wood which will be moving just as fast on the opposite end but a greater distance than a straight spring trajectory

I feel like this is already known momentum. I am just looking for the word so I can study it.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

The notches on the spring machine are so you can find the notch where the egg will burst then try it on a stick. For spear it should be parallel to stick for end over end it should be perpendicular to the stick

 

[CreatedEvolution]

The phenomenon I am trying to study is will the egg burst on a short spring straight forward and survive the same spring but on the opposite end of a stick. Where lengthening the initial spring action while not reducing the spring pressure.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I am trying to find it online but alls I come up with is retrograde motion and a flipping motion. I am going to look into to stress and strain to see what I learn.

If this is an unlabeled process, I would call it an elongated acceleration. And an elongated path. We could call it elongated acceleration.

 

[Classical Motion]

A straight path only requires one velocity. A spiral path requires a minimum of two accelerations.

 

[billslugg]

A moving charged particle will travel forever at a constant speed when it is going parallel to the local magnetic field. In shortwave radio listening, "whistlers" sometimes occur. This is a packet of electrons in the ionosphere, set into motion by a lightning strike, traveling along the Earth's magnetic field lines out in space, bouncing from the North Pole and then going back to the South Pole and reversing. They can repeat every few seconds as they bounce back and forth, gradually dying out. It is a "whistle" on a downward moving note, since higher energy electrons spiral around the magnetic field lines in much tighter circles than low energy electrons do and get there first. The low energy ones have much further to travel since their spiral is larger. I have heard them myself. From the reference frame of the electron, it is simply following the path of least resistance, which happens to be a spiral. No energy need be added, it will bounce back and forth around the Earth several times.

 

[Classical Motion]

I would check for an atmospheric change, to start a whistler. Like air pressure or sound. Thunder. This disturbance would rock and roll, wave, the upper ionosphere. The ionosphere blanket is charged. That charge wave interacts electrically with the magnetosphere. Creating electrical interacting fields at air disturbance frequencies. Oscillating with area dispersion. A density dispersion. A fading.

Do whistlers happen with volcanic eruptions? How about asteroid air explosions.

A hurricane low, might cause a very low freq. whistler. A sub Hz tone. Reflection.

A fleet of sats might paint this space film interaction.

This film, might be another communication channel. OR a new quantum detector.

This film might have a topographical surface map within it, like the surface of an ocean reflecting the bottom structure.

Perhaps a new surface detecting technique. For other places.

Perhaps help with weather prediction here.