Project Orion riding on Ares rockets

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radarredux

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"Orion" is the name of the CEV and the name for the entire project to put humans on the moon. So now we have names for the rockets (Ares I and Ares V) and the Project/CEV (Orion).<br /><br />Something about Orion the Hunter riding to orbit on Ares, the God of War, seems, well, war like.<br /><br />Project Orion to Follow Apollo to the Moon<br />http://www.space.com/news/060720_cev_orion.html
 
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nyarlathotep

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If it's not nuclear pulse propulsion, i'm not interested.
 
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mattblack

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Unlikely to be built in the lifetimes of most people reading this. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
 
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PistolPete

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Yup, it's true. NASA will be using Project Orion to get to the moon. Looks like Projectorion finally won his debate with Yales after all of these years. Just not quite the project that PO had in mind though. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
 
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crix

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I keep on thinking of the publication "The Onion"... maybe it's my font size but Orion and Onion look so simiilar... making me think this whole program is a joke.<br />
 
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christine16

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i hope it isn't joke, and orion prevail <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />
 
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trailrider

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" 'Orion' is the name of the CEV and the name for the entire project to put humans on the moon. So now we have names for the rockets (Ares I and Ares V) and the Project/CEV (Orion)."<br /><br />Q: How many components or versions of the "Orion" CEV are there? The CEV will be used to transfer personnel to the ISS, which is NOT the lunar program. Also, won't there be unmanned cargo-lift versions and CEV's docked at the space station for return of personnel to Earth (in addition to Soyuz, etc.)? Since Orion is the overall project name for the LUNAR exploration PROGRAM, might there not be additional names for the various components of the vehicles? This brings up the possibility of "Regulus", Betalguese (sp?) and some other stars in the Orion constellation. Since final configurations haven't been determined or announced, I'd propose the term "Orion Nebula" for the whole thing...a nebula being a fuzzy, diffuse, not well-defined celestial object. At least until things get sorted out. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Ad Luna! Ad Ares! Ad Astra! <br />
 
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elguapoguano

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<font color="yellow">NASA will be using Project Orion to get to the moon. Looks like Projectorion finally won his debate with Yales after all of these years. Just not quite the project that PO had in mind though.</font><br /><br />Ha! I thought the same thing. That has been a long time ago now. I don't think I've seen Yales on here since 2001... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ff0000"><u><em>Don't let your sig line incite a gay thread ;>)</em></u></font> </div>
 
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crix

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http://www.nuclearspace.com/<br /><br />Don't know if you guys have seen this, but I used to visit this page frequently before NTR was removed from the VSE agenda or NASA agenda in general via Prometheus. The latest article, dated July 11, 2005 shows some movies of what most of us think of as Project Orion.<br /><br />
 
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gunsandrockets

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Orion? Orion! Ugh...this is going to cause no end of confusion.<br /><br />If NASA insists on recyclying well known names, a much better one than Orion would be Polaris.<br /><br />With a name like Orion, there had better damn well be some kind of nuclear propulsion in the mix somewhere down the line!
 
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j05h

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When I first read "Project Orion" for VSE, I thought it was a joke. Then I saw it on a couple space-news sites and just had to shake my head. Poor name choice, IMHO. <br /><br />Josh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>
 
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drwayne

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Nuke the name.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>
 
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j05h

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> Nuke the name. <br /><br />"Project Constellation" made some sense, "Orion" has to many other purposes attached to it. Now the "Artemis" capsule is "Orion", too? <br /><br />Josh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>
 
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PistolPete

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Well if it was logical it wouldn't be a US govornment bureaucracy. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
 
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nyarlathotep

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Would we call Atlas V with with the wide body centaur scorpio?
 
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edkyle98

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"New service module too. Old one was too heavy, this one is the minimalist version."<br /><br />My understanding is that the latest design is actually about the same mass as the original concept. It still weighs 27 tonnes or so on the pad (including launch escape system) and 22 tonnes after it has put itself into a stable orbit. It looks to me like it has really only been repackaged a bit, probably under the influence of Lockheed input.<br /><br /> - Ed Kyle<br /><br />
 
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docm

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http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4659<br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>The study, called the Design Analysis Cycle Review (DAC-2), reveals that the current CEV is overweight- as per DAC-1 study - by about 5,200 lbs. The changes being made by NASA address this problem by <b><i>including a significant shrink of the SM, decreasing its mass by almost 3,000 lbs.</i></b> The SM's length is to be reduced by about half, such that it only accommodates the volume of the spacecraft propellant tanks.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote>Last I checked a 3,000 lbs weight loss makes for a non-trivial diet <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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tohaki

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I ran OrionAres through an anagram creator and got these results:<br /><br />roar noise<br />air sooner<br />ion soarer<br />iron arose<br />aero irons
 
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