Question Saturn`s hexagon

[gazza]

Delete this tread pls

 

[ZZTOP]

Has anyone worked out what cause`s Saturn`s hexagon at the north pole. If not I may have stumbled across an explanation by accident

You could not stumble across an explanation by accident, simply because you are not aware of the composition of the atmosphere much less understand the physical dynamics in play on that atmosphere. LOL you do not even know conclusively if the shape is solid liquid or gas or some combination

 

[COLGeek]

Has anyone worked out what cause`s Saturn`s hexagon at the north pole. If not I may have stumbled across an explanation by accident

Please share what you stumbled across.

 

[COLGeek]

The personal insults stop now.

It is okay to disagree, but not to lash out at others.

State your case, with sources if possible, and discuss with civility.

Thank you.

 

[gazza]

Please share what you stumbled across.

 

[COLGeek]

Hello ColGeek. I watch one of Brian Cox`s DVD`s Universe a few months ago, he said that they don`t know for sure what causes that hexagon shape pattern at the north pole.

I did create that hexagon shape with the rounded corners by accident and the first thing that came to mind was, wow that shape looks just like the hexagon shape on Saturn and I can replicate it over and over now . A few weeks have passed now and I can`t stop thinking about it, so I did a little digging. I found that Ana Aguiar and her team at Oxford University was trying to recreate that pattern in a spinning fluid tank using different liquids and different methods to try and make the same pattern shape without much success back in 2013.

I am no where near as educated as these prophesiers and scientists, but just maybe they are overthinking it all and are missing the simplest answer to why. At this point I`m not going to share exactly how I can make this pattern here just yet.

But I`ll say this as simple as I can. My theory is just a thought. The upper layers and the lower layers must be rotating at a different speed while the convection of rising and falling gases within the layers must be causing friction. Now add a wobble to the axis. with out the wobble, the pattern would disappear and become round again.

Fair enough. Seems that notion could be recreated in a lab, and certainly modeled.

 

[ZZTOP]

Fair enough. Seems that notion could be recreated in a lab, and certainly modeled.

Did Oxford simulate the gravity and pressures on Saturn that may well influence the fluid dynamics that need to be in play, or did they just use Earth's gravity pressure and temps?

 

[COLGeek]

Did Oxford simulate the gravity and pressures on Saturn that may well influence the fluid dynamics that need to be in play, or did they just use Earth's gravity pressure and temps?

Personally, I don't know and don't really have the time to dig into it right now.

As @gazza stated, his notion could certainly be created in a lab. I would assume the Ozford effort did something similar. Pressures and densities would be guesses as we don't know the actual info from Saturn itself.

 

[COLGeek]

Your over thinking . gravity and pressure has nothing to do with causing this shape

How so? Just having different layers of the same properties/moving in different directions doesn't seem to be enough to create the sheer conditions to create the shape. I could be wrong, of course.

I am not considering gravity, by the way, but chemical composition of the layers, the density of those layers, the speeds/directions of movement. Gravity would seem a bit of a constant.