Science fiction based on events in space

[supn]

Certain elements of the science fiction series Star Trek, may have been inspired by actual cosmic awareness by its creators. The most notable similarity seems to be that a "Galactic Federation" of ethical planetary civilizations according to representation by contactees and researchers does exist, that it is governed by "constitutionalism” including the rights of sentient beings, and social justice.

Once contact established, humanity would have been esteamed ready to be informed about conscious beings on a rather large amount of other life-suitable planets. Information to the public was not relayed directly through media channels, but trickled down through movie programs.

Film is a powerful method for educating — or indoctrinating — citizens. Simultaneously, public distress is avoided because the audience thinks it's all fiction. Later, officials could defend this release of apparently fictituous information as an actual way to discretely inform the public.

 

[Kerberos]

I say we kick this Federation's butt. NOBODY messes with our television!

 

[jim48]

Welcome to SDC, supn. Interesting "family" here, to say the least. There were no "creators" of Star Trek. There was just one: Gene Roddenberry. Others contributed enormously to the show... writers, producers, directors, but Star Trek was Roddenberry's baby, and he wasn't much into woo-woo stuff, as I learned back in 1973 when I asked him about UFOs. He was polite in his response but basically said that he didn't buy into UFOs. Roddenberry was an intellectual given the keys to a prime-time tv show, as Rod Serling had been, although no one could accuse Serling of being a visionary. Roddenberry was, in spades. He saw Star Trek as an opportunity to talk about taboo subjects on television free of network censorship, as Rod Serling had. Each succeeded to some extent. Be careful of what you read into Star Trek. Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek was of a ship that goes all over the galaxy to explore and learn about other worlds and again he wasn't into woo-woo concepts. He wanted interesting science fiction and of course NBC wanted fist-fights, shoot-em'-ups, gorgeous girls, and other stuff. After Star Trek[/i] was cancelled and before they started making Star Trek movies is when he got sort of philosophical about the show, given the huge benefit of its success in re-runs... as he was earning a living touring the country on the lecture circuit showing the original pilot episode and the famous Blooper Reel and taking questions from the audience, which is how I got to meet him down in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. A very smart and engaging man. Too smart for tv and moives, as it turned out, which is why he got all-but kicked off of the Star Trek movies after the first one.

 

[redbert]

the "prime directive" also known as the Zoo scenario

The aliens are here and they are keeping us in a well designed zoo (cut off from all contact) or there is an treaty preventing contact with young races.
Problem: this scenario can't be tested. Only one ET could break the embargo.


galatic empire/ federation of planets?


"where are they?" ....fermi

http://www.fermisparadox.com/
http://www.fermisparadox.com/Possible-a ... aradox.htm

 

[thebigcat]

the "prime directive" also known as the Zoo scenario

The aliens are here and they are keeping us in a well designed zoo (cut off from all contact) or there is an treaty preventing contact with young races.
Problem: this scenario can't be tested. Only one ET could break the embargo.


galatic empire/ federation of planets?

Prime Directive, Zoo, what's the difference?



Hey supn, why don't you install a bulls*** filter in your brain? That page you linked to contains the following text:

"During the winter of 1956-57, the Washington, D.C. area was extremely cold, but it was a good feeling to be working in a high security position in the Pentagon. I lived only a short distance away in Georgetown, the old section of the Nation's Capital. Senator J.F. Kennedy lived on "O" Street just a block away from our house on Prospect”, says Harley Andrew Byrd nephew to the late Rear Admiral Richard R. E. Byrd United States Navy.

“During a successful tour with the U.S. Naval Ceremonial Honor Guard, we had met with astronauts Glen, Cooper, Waly Sherrar, who were the first wave of successful space travelers. Also we had visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier numerous times. It seemed like every time a visiting dignitary came to Washington, they lay a wreath at the tomb.”

In 1957 John Glenn, Gordon Cooper, and Wally Shirra were not astronauts. Glenn was a Marine aviator and Cooper and Shirra were Air Force pilots. It would be some years before the astronaut program and Project Mercury would form.

 

[drwayne]

You know, I have seen "mistakes" of this nature be taken to give the material that
they come from *more* credibility. The theory being that we all mis-remember details of
events in our lives, but that, if we were making stuff up, we would make sure we
got the details right...

If what something says closely aligns with your belief compass, you can be inclined
to rationalize anything.

Wayne

 

[10_stone_5]

I'm still unclear what this thread is supposed to be about.
:geek: :ugeek:

 

[supn]

Science fiction was invented to discredit the truth. Simultaneously, a real space program was supported by a tremendous officious budget.

The truth about life in space is routinely fictionalized. It started with silly saucers crashing into the White House in 1947, and got on to the Star Trek series, followed by a whole stew of movies.

These movies might be the only indication to what has really been discovered out there. The military-cinematographic relation is a way to inform the people in a way that is controlled, deniable and insinuating.

 

[drwayne]

"Science fiction was invented to discredit the truth"

Wow! You know *why* science fiction was invented!

Wayne

 

[thebigcat]

Wait...saucers crashed into the White House??? Are you sure you didn't read the article wrong? Bess Truman was careless with the White House tea setting and a saucer crashed to the floor, something like that?

 

[crazyeddie]

Wait...saucers crashed into the White House??? Are you sure you didn't read the article wrong? Bess Truman was careless with the White House tea setting and a saucer crashed to the floor, something like that?

No, it wasn't the White House, it was the Capitol building, as this historical record clearly shows:

I understand it hit the Washington Monument, too!

 

[Kerberos]

Ah, what a great movie that was! I may have to pull out my copy and watch it again tonight.

 

[supn]

You should google for 'Pentagon + Hollywood'.

 

[drwayne]

You should google for 'Pentagon + Hollywood'.

The genre of science fiction existed many years before there ever was a Pentagon, or a military
industrial complex of course.

 

[Kerberos]

To which I have turned a blind eye, or have had the wool pulled over my eyes. Or, I am
either an agent of the system or a dupe thereof.

 

[bdewoody]

In an episode of TNG an astrophysicist was trying to observe an event occurring in a binary star pair where one of the stars was a neutron star feeding off it's companion eventually causing an explosion. Didn't I just read about a recent observation of just such an event?

 

[thebigcat]

In an episode of TNG an astrophysicist was trying to observe an event occurring in a binary star pair where one of the stars was a neutron star feeding off it's companion eventually causing an explosion. Didn't I just read about a recent observation of just such an event?

That was actually an observed phenomenon before the episode of TNG was filmed. Well, theoretically, anyway. A variable star visible to the naked eye and known to the ancients, IIRC, was explained as an eclipsing binary of just that nature.

ETA: Minus the bit about exploding, of course. It's actually quite stable as the neutron star drains the plasma away from the primary.