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[Saiph]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>they had disassembled McCoy's communicator and reverse-engineered it to build a society based on the Federation, its ideals, and technology.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Now, how the heck did they do the societal and ideological reverse engineering from a communication device? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[nova_explored]

now that you mention it, I remember. (the jordi episode)<br /><br />Not have a captain and ship in the new movie, it shouldn't even bare the name TNG. <br /><br />And no captain and crew of TNG sounds boring if it is within the movie is going to stick to the concept of TNG. who knows. <br /><br />Take the underbelly of the federation as a subplot juxtaposed with a story of survival for the crew.<br /><br />That's what i loved about the original series movies, they were constantly being ripped and torn fighting for their survival, and this set in the distant future was suddenly much more accessible, working class... I think that's part of its great success and following (the movies that is).<br /><br />TNG is more high minded, it makes me think that STOS would be the wild west and TNG is the british high court.<br /><br />and i know TNG movies had their enterprise being torn apart, but not really. The original was do or die with the ship, it was itself another character, TNG it was more of an afterthought. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[nova_explored]

Michael Bay is slated to direct the untitle Transformer Film in 2007.<br /><br />i couldn't find anything about a new Star Trek movie. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[iwannanewtrek]

I'm glad that they are doing another film. Enterprise is not the way the franchise should end. Star Trek is worth SO much more than that! I am interested to see what they come up with, though. I have heard some rumors that the next trek, be it a movie or tv series or both, will be set some time after Enterprise, but before TOS. I would like to see the epic Earth-Romulan War. With the success of Lord of the Rings and the Episode Three, that an epic battle and story revolving around that would breathe a new life into the franchise. I think that it could be cool to see Patrick Stewart come back in a role as one of his ancestors. He has said that the Picard's have fought in many battles, and it is feaseable that a Picard was in this war. That is just my thought, though.

 

[robert_miller]

>> There will never be enough Trek for me!<br /><br />Looks like we will be getting a lot more Star Trek.<br /><br />In fact, the new series "Star Trek: New Voyages" has already signed up a couple of the original characters:<br />George Takei as Hikaru Sulu and Walter Koenig as Pavel Chekov.<br /><br />From the Trek Today site:<br /><br />www.trektoday.com<br /> <br />Regards,<br />

 

[cdr6]

Interesting. Did they say if Sulu and Checkov would be Captains with own ships? (I couldn't find the article.)

 

[nova_explored]

YES!!!<br /><br />finally someone said it. a series forward....one can dream. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[jtkirk1701]

will the klingons look new or old? will we see a much more inhanced constitution class star ship. will we meet robert t april first to command the constitution class enterprise? will we get to see chistopher pike in action?, will spock smile? will sulu still be a science officer? when will bones replace pikes doctor? will we get to relive any of the original episodes? will we see pikes verson of the enterprise? will i beable to finilly buy a gold command shirt like kirks? will we see any nx class star ships? is archer still alive as an old man, or do we meet archers son? what about finnagain, will we see him taunt kirk at the acadamy?<br />

 

[darth_elmo]

What's the difference? "Broken Arrow" wrecked the whole TOS-smooth-headed-Klingon causality anyway. The only thing they could <i>possibly</i> do is undo Worf's classy explanation of the sordid affair: "We don't talk about it!"

 

[yevaud]

The Rhees-Davies already had made a better explanation along the same lines in a previous ST book (sorry, I don't precisely recollect the name), in which there was a "normal" Klingon race and an "Imperial" Klingon race. The normals were the Klingons known to Kirk's time - the Imperials were the one's with the weird skull ridges.<br /><br />IIRC, the book was "IDIC." I think. At least the book involved Kirk's time, a pan-galactic plague, and the Klingons in this sense. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[darth_elmo]

Sorry to jump in Yevaud, it was <i>The Final Reflection</i> by John M. Ford.

 

[yevaud]

Er, no it was not.<br /><br />The particular book was the "IDIC Epidemic" by Jean Lorreh. My mistake about the authors. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[darth_elmo]

Err...yes it was. At least the one of which I'm thinking. TFR showed that the Klingons had been kidnapping Federation citizens from outlying colonies or vessels in transit that the Federation assumed were lost with all hands. The protagonist of the novel was a Klingon boy named Vrenn (later 'Krenn', when he took his adult name), who was chosen to be Captain of the Klingon vessel that would carry a diplomatic envoy from Earth to Klinzhai (what JMF called the Klingon homeworld, pre NextGen).

 

[yevaud]

I think the plot of the story I was referring to was much closer, as it directly discussed the "old" and "new" Klingons.<br /><br />There is a planet that is a test-case, and has Humans, Klingons, and Romulans resident, as well as several other species (and numerous mixed races as well). A disease appears that infects everyone, regardless of species.<br /><br />Later, it's shown that those who are most susceptible to the disease are those of mixed heritage (leading, of course, to a side-story about Spock)<br /><br />In the course of the story, it's mentioned that there is a "Klingon Imperial race," who are described as having the same "odd, gnarled foreheads with ridge bones" as those of TNG and afterwords.<br /><br />The disease turns out to be one that most Klingons are susceptible to, but not the Imperial race. And the disease was modified to attempt to make it a biogenic weapon. IIRC, several of the survivors of the disease end up morphed into resembling the Imperials.<br /><br />All of which I mentioned this as a story being quite close to the matter under discussion. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[mooware]

I don't know that I like the plot line in the new ST movie. To tell a story of how Kirk and Spock met. what is this Brokeback Trek?<br /><br />

 

[darth_elmo]

I see your point. I don't remember if I ever read <i>The IDIC Epidemic</i>. I think I must have...for a time I was keeping up with newly-published novels fairly regularly. Still...it's not dredging up any memories.

 

[jtkirk1701]

Are there any books that tell the stories of Robert T April first captain of the constitution class enterprise? what of christopher pike and spock? Did kirk and pike ever meet. I personally like kirk the best and the constitution class is my favorite. to get to see the constitution class as it was in the original series on the big screen. is what I've been waiting for since 1969.

 

[darth_elmo]

<i>Final Frontier</i> and <i>Best Destiny</i>. They're stories about George Kirk Sr. and James T. Kirk, but Robert April figures in prominently with both.

 

[dragon04]

<font color="yellow">don't know that I like the plot line in the new ST movie. To tell a story of how Kirk and Spock met. what is this Brokeback Trek?</font><br /><br />No no no... That will be ST 12. Sulu and Chekov hook up. You always knew they would. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

Side Note--<br />Did you ever read Best Destiny? That was one of the few ST books I had trouble finishing. And I am not sure I ever did. I have liked and enjoyed many of them, but somehow that was not one of them.<br /><br />It told a good story of how James T. changed from a trouble maker to a determined young man, and I think it had to do with his father's death there in space, if I remember correctly. (And James T. was a leader even as a kid)

 

[hracctsold]

Dragon04,<br /><br />Just saw your note and was wondering if that Chekov moment was in real life or just for show?

 

[vogon13]

I am still amazed at the resemblence between Ray Liotta and Jeffery Hunter (Christopher Pike).<br /><br />Seems any number of interesting movies could be down with Ray in the Pike role.<br /><br />Explore the defeat of the Orion Syndicate perhaps, maybe Pike was the one to have done it ?<br /><br />(I haven't seen all the Star Trek Enterprise eps yet (they are running out of order in my market) so if Scott Bakula conquers them, please don't tell me)<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[dragon04]

<font color="yellow">Just saw your note and was wondering if that Chekov moment was in real life or just for show?</font><br /><br />My tongue was so far in cheek-ov when I made that post, that I had to get an oral surgeon ot extract it this morning. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

Yea, that's what you say now, but we really know what's real there. Was watching Robin Williams trying to be interviewed by Regis from his morning show the other day. Poor Regis could not get many words in at all.<br /><br />Robin used that analogy as well when he was teasing Regis about going to a Lakers game with Jack Nickosen(sp), you know who I mean. His comment to Regis was, what are you two going to do next go to Brokeback Mountain or something. Then he said he could not imagine those two on horseback together. He was bringing down the house.<br /><br />But I was surprised when I heard George T. say he was coming out of the secret closet though.

 

[jtkirk1701]

what is the time frame for the romulan war with earth that established the romulan nuetral zone? what ships were available and what captains were involved?