Sweet THe Hobbit Deal Struck!!

[shadow735]

Looks like the path is set for the making of the Hobbit<br />http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1696080,00.html<br /><br />Thanks God Peter Jackson is going to be the executive producer!!!<br />I cant wait.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[docm]

About f'ing time <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shadow735]

I hope they get Ian Holm to play Bilbo I loved his preformance in LOTR <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

YES! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<font color="yellow">shadow735 - I hope they get Ian Holm to play Bilbo I loved his preformance in LOTR</font><br /><br />I loved his performance too. I think he played Bilbo perfectly!<br /><br />But, Sir Holm isn't getting any younger. He'd be almost 80 by the time the film was released if it stays on schedule. There's also the question of whether or not he can play the younger Bilbo. I wish they could figure out a way to make it feasible, but I don't think they can. Still, he deserves to at least play the role of the older Bilbo, perhaps reflecting on his past adventures as he begins "There and Back Again." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[jmilsom]

It'll be nice to see a new version of The Hobbit.<br /><br />I wonder what they will with the dwarves. Peter Jackson turned Gimli into comic relief in LOTR.<br /><br />Will they use different comic relief or persist with the dwarf jokes en masse? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[PistolPete]

The book was one long dwarf joke anyway. I can't wait to see the Unexpected Party. Dwarves bounding into Bilbo's hobbit hole uninvited without so much as a "How do you do?" and Bilbo running around frantically, throwing a fit trying to feed all of them.<br /><br />I recently re-read the book and after seeing LOTR I could actually "see" in my mind how the whole scene would play on film. Absolutely hysterical! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>

 

[starsinmyeyes44]

I'm glad that not much time has passed since the filming of the LOTR...so that there won't be a glaring discrepency between the special effects of the prequel (filmed later) and the sequel (filmed earlier) that there was with the Star Wars films. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff00ff">In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back.<br /></font><strong>Charlie Brown</strong></p> </div>

 

[etavaunt]

One of the British Regiments had a Bear cub Mascot that lived at Whipsnade zoo, when he wasn't on official duyt.<br /><br />They called him Boron, which I thought wasa pretty damned excellant name for a War-bear.

 

[JonClarke]

The first movie, based on the Hobbit, might be worth seeing (unless it is one long dwarf joke). The "sequel" is definitely something I will skip.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

I don't know what kind of sequel they could put in there. There isn't anything in canon that truly gives a minute-by-minute between the Hobbit and LoTR. At least, nothing I have read which includes the "Lost Tales" series.<br /><br />I say they drop a sequel to The Hobbit and go for a dualogy/trilogy on "The Silmarillion." I think it could be done well enough that it would appeal to everyone, not just ME enthusiasts. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

Exactly. Nothing of note happened to Hobbits between Bilbo's two departures (except lots of eating and drinking). That iss he point o hobbit culture. It was insular, parochial, stable, and peaceful. To invent a story in here is basically just expensive fan fiction.<br /><br />The story of Arwen and Aragorn might have been be worth telling, but the film so changed this that this is no longer the case. of course something could be invened, but then we are back to fan fiction.<br /><br />There is lots of good material in the Sillmarillion (although much that is too grand a scope for film, I suspect) I would love to see The Children of Hurin on screen, but I suspect it is too classically tragic for modern movie-going tastes and not trendy enough for arthouse. Beren and Luthien might work too, so might the the voyage of Eärendil. But both stories rely very heavily on context, much more than the Hobbit or LOTR, which can be read as stand alone works. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<font color="yellow">JonClarke - But both stories rely very heavily on context, much more than the Hobbit or LOTR, which can be read as stand alone works.</font><br /><br />True. It would be difficult to weave the stories of the Silmarrilion together to present a cohesive story to the viewer. They're all snapshots in time, so to speak. But, I think they represent some of the best quality in "High Fantasy" ever written.<br /><br />It may be possible to just do a story based on Beren and Luthien. The Silmarrils are a the focus of the book and Beren and Luthien's tale is mirrored in Aragorn and Arwen's. People seemed to enjoy that part of the LoTR movies. There would have to be a heck of a lot of backstory in there though. Valor/Silmarrils/Feanor/Fingolfin/Morgoth/the founding of Gondolin etc..<br /><br />I looked at a possible logical sequence for a movie(s) based on The Silmarrillion. http://www.factmonster.com/spot/lotr-timeline.html<br /><br />The more I looked for start/stop points, the more I realized it's just too big. It would take five full length films to cover the most interesting stories and that wouldn't even begin to do them justice as a lot would be removed.<br /><br />You're right. There's so much shared information between all of the stories that it would be extremely difficult to do most of them without skipping crucial points which add so much flavor. Maybe one day, someone will figure out how to do it.<br /><br />I wouldn't mind a piece on the Witch King of Angmar though. There's little enough known about that period that they'd have some freedom with it. The only problem would be deviating from the "flavor" of TLoTR by inventing events that don't agree with the canon histories. It's possible, just possible, this is what they're referring to as a lead-in to the LoTR movies: The story of Sauron's creation of the Rings, his defeat by the Last Alliance, the los <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[jcdenton]

I think a mini-series would be better suited for The Silmarillion than a movie.<br /><br />The only problem is such an undertaking would be very ambitious and costly, and there's no telling if you would get enough viewership past the hard-core Tolkienites. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[spacelifejunkie]

It's good to see Jackson and New Line working together again. There is a lot of dialogue about there being two movies. Could it be that "The Hobbit" will be in two parts, released a year apart? <br /><br />On a side note, I'd love to see another trilogy on the Simarils. When I read the book, my mind was racing trying to visualize Morgoth, the torturing of elves into orcs and all those balrogs fighting. Wow. Could it be done in three movies? I don't know but let's root for The Hobbit and lots of $$$$ success and maybe we'll see more of Middle Earth.<br /><br /><br />SLJ

 

[JonClarke]

I agree, the Hobbit will, I hope, be a success. because it is a simpler story, there is less opportunity for the director and producer to do their horrid worst to the story.<br /><br />the second film, as I said, would be fan fiction and will, I hope be cast (like Morgoth) beyond the wall of night, before even sees the light.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

<i>I wouldn't mind a piece on the Witch King of Angmar though. There's little enough known about that period that they'd have some freedom with it. The only problem would be deviating from the "flavor" of TLoTR by inventing events that don't agree with the canon histories. It's possible, just possible, this is what they're referring to as a lead-in to the LoTR movies: The story of Sauron's creation of the Rings, his defeat by the Last Alliance, the loss of the Ring and the rise of the Witch King.</i><br /><br />There is certain a good story there, and even enough information for it not to boo fan fictionish. The decline and fall of the north kingdom, the reduction of the line of Isildur to the wandering rangers, Glorfindel's prophecy about the Witch-king, there is even a small role for hobbits, as they send a contingent of archers to the lst defence of Fornost, the gradual fading of the Witch-king into a wraith.<br /><br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

Anyone remember the first Hobbit movie that came out in the mid 80's or so? It was an animation version from Bass and Rankin, but I did enjoy it much. Then there came out the sound track in a 2 record set. It not only had all the songs of the book, and movie, but also much of the dialogue. That was so good, I put it on cassette and listened to it in my car while driving.<br /><br />The voice characters were great as well. The dragon's voice was Richard Boone, (remember his western series, (sp)Palladen), along with others. I can still hear his booming voice making that dragon come to life. I still think the LOTR was a great set of movies, and with Peter Jackson at the lead would look forward to it. <br /><br />One other memorable scene that just came to mind was when Gandalf intoduced the dwarves to Bilbo at a dinner party. They just took over the place and about drove Bilbo insane almost breaking his dishes and glasses, but saving them. The movie had a song playing during it that still plays in my mind as I think of it.

 

[spacelifejunkie]

Will the hobbit be filmed as a children's movie, like the book? Or will it be more in line with LOTR? I'm hoping for the latter.<br /><br /><br />SLJ

 

[shadow735]

I would assume it will be filmed in much the manner that the three LOTR films were done, It would seem pointless to make it "childrenish" if you take my meaning.<br />I really dont think it would make much money if it were.<br />The Hobbit is a sure bet for a $ maker so they will make it along the likes of LOTR three movies. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

SLJ,<br /><br />I always thought it was going to be a good movie like LOTR's. But the old Hobbit movie, though not live action, was a good rendition of the book. And I always thought that the old movie was MORE then JUST a kid's cartoon, like on Saturday morning in the good old days!!<br /><br />With the hugh success of the LOTR's and the ease of making a movie of this type, it would be very un-wise to do anything else.

 

[spacelifejunkie]

hraccts, I agree. I'm just looking forward to it so much that I was afraid of a change for the worst. Wow, they'll have to rebuild Hobbiton and create all new sets. I've watched the "making of" documentaries on the extended DVD's and the effort put into those was impressive. I can't wait to see the dragon. What about the characters? Gollum, Gandalf? I can't envision anyone doing those characters but the originals. Good luck PJ, make another classic.<br /><br /><br />SLJ