the possible creation of energy and matter in the universe

[chembuff1982]

I have a very rogue idea of how matter and energy could have been created in the universe, but I do need help working on my theory. It is known when stars explode they form blackholes. What if this is a recycling process and eventually black holes revert back into star energy and matter. Think of it like this, a black hole is a super vacumn. Now if that vacumn closes up and keeps sucking, heat, and energy will build up and eventually that black hole will burst out of it's enclosure and form an energy ball or structure which is the basis for energy and matter. However, I cannot determine how blackholes were originally created unless there was some kind of tear in space and time, which created a vacumn. Feel free to leave nasty comments or explanations lol. Thanks.<br /> Justin McHugh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> You may be a genius, but google knows more than you! </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

vacuum <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[chembuff1982]

Sorry for my spelling error. I'll register for the national spelling bee when I get a chance. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> You may be a genius, but google knows more than you! </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

It's just if you are going to propose a radical new idea in science, the least you should do is care enough to be able to spell one of the most important words in your statement.<br />If you don't care about that, why should we care about your theory? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[Saiph]

well, some star deaths result in black holes, not all.<br /><br />Also, BH's are believed to radiate away their mass as Hawking Radiation. However there is no net creation of mass in this process. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[harmonicaman]

Mass is inert and static; it doesn't do anything. BHs, stars and energy are just an effect of expanding time and space getting out of the way of this static mass.

 

[chembuff1982]

I understand your adverse, theory, but I would like a source of this information, or something mathmatical or scientific to show me. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> You may be a genius, but google knows more than you! </div>

 

[chembuff1982]

I understand your adverse, theory, but I would like a source of this information, or something mathmatical or scientific to show me. <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> You may be a genius, but google knows more than you! </div>

 

[harmonicaman]

TOR, SR; E=mc²...

 

[derekmcd]

<i> It is known when stars explode they form blackholes.</i><br /><br />As mentioned before, this is true, but only for stars of 3 solar mass (3 time the size of our sun) or more.<br /><br /><i>What if this is a recycling process and eventually black holes revert back into star energy and matter</i><br /><br />This is indeed what happens... in a roundabout way. Massive stars that go supernova shed quite of bit of their mass that is recycled into new stars. The matter that creates you and I were quite probably originally formed in a star. Black holes are theorized to evaporate via Hawking Radiation as mentioned before. If that black hole has cleared out the area, it will eventually evaporate all it's mass... though, the amount of time it takes for this to happen is a number with many, many zeros behind it.<br /><br /><i>Think of it like this, a black hole is a super vacumn.</i><br /><br />Don't let the myth that black holes are 'cosmic vacuum cleaners' fool ya. They have no more gravitational pull than the original star it formed from.<br /><br /><i>Now if that vacumn closes up and keeps sucking, heat, and energy will build up and eventually that black hole will burst out of it's enclosure and form an energy ball or structure which is the basis for energy and matter.</i><br /><br />Stellar black holes typically form so far away from anything that they don't grow. There is not much matter surrounding them to absorb. If it was part of a binary star system, then it might have a chance to grow off it's partner. Let's assume, though, there is enough matter for them suck up matter as in the center of a galaxy. Black holes do not pack more matter into the same amount of space, thus building pressure for them to "burst" as you put it. They simply grow and expand their event horizon.<br /><br /><i>However, I cannot determine how blackholes were originally created unless there was some kind of tear in space and time, which created a vacumn.</i><br /><br /><br />They form the same way n <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[dillinger1932]

According to the traditional accepted theory, a black hole is a collapsed star. It has collapsed so far that the gravitational field becomes greater than the electromagnetic repulsive forces that exist between individual particles at the center of the star. In essence, not even light would be able to escape the gravitational pull of the black hole.While the traditional line of reasoning behind black holes might seem to make sense to a large number of scientists, I do not agree with it. There are many assumptions made, and at least one very questionable mathematical technique used. While I do not agree there are "Black Holes" out there, I do believe in something very close to Black Hole theory. My Ball-of-Light Particle describes something very close to Black Holes -- balls-of-light. Let me emphasize, the differences between the descriptions of a "Black Hole" and a "ball-of-light" may seem either extremely large, or extremely small depending upon your point of view. The lay person may think the differences do not even exist. A theoretical physicist who has studied Black Holes for years may be shocked by the differences.<br /><br />There is no doubt about the bulk of astronomical observations concerning these massive objects -- whatever they are called, or however they are described -- they do exist.<br />When I was about 16 years old, I read a book by Isaac Asimov called, "THE COLLAPSING UNIVERSE, THE STORY OF BLACK HOLES". This was the first time I heard a scientific description of the traditional 4 forces of nature: nuclear, electromagnetic, weak, and gravitational. He carefully compared these four forces, describing something about their relative strengths. He went on to describe the traditional view of the atom, and how the electrons and nuclei both attract and repel each other. He talked about density, giving various examples of how dense common materials are. Then he went on to describe gravity, and that while it was the weakest of the 4 forces, its effects were c

 

[alkalin]

This is my first voyage into a black hole so if I seem mystified by it all, I need some catching up with myself before it kills me. <br /><br />There is a point of force power of gravity where even light cannot escape which creates the notion of an event horizon, a theoretical wall where things can change dramatically, but only if density of matter is sufficient within a given region. Math within the walls of event horizons tends to break down because we use math that has a singularity in it which is a clue that the math may be defective. But hey, we use defective math all the time to describe the big bang. <br /><br />So next on the journey is where the matter is. If no matter is to be found then there is no matter, only math.<br /><br />Sorry if I seem flippant but we just do not know much about this phenomena, but it is good you can think of many questions, each of which could be brought to a separate thread and easily disputed by the experts perhaps.<br /><br /><br /><br />

 

[MeteorWayne]

And let me then add a short trivial retort that the chembuff post steve is replying to was posted<br />8/28/06<br /><br />And I've had it with your insults. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Again, steve I'm just pointing out that you are replying to a post from over 4 months ago, so anyone reading this can understand what you are talking about.<br />Since my Latin ain't so good, can you translate "Tu quoque" ?<br /><br />Now back to the topic at hand..... <br /><br />And you post was very good, BTW <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Thanx. Although I don't understand how that is relevant to my post.<br /><br />My contibution to this thread was to point out you were replying to a very old post, so people were't confused.<br />That is one of your MOs.<br />As for the subject, I know enough not to respond to the question when my knowledge is not sufficient. Perhaps a valuable point to consider.<br />As I stated, you made an excellent response, far better than I could have done to the subject.<br />Thanx<br /><br />MW <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[why06]

Is that straight from wikipedia? or did YOU write that<br /><br />Check one:<br /><br /><font color="yellow">Yes<font color="white"> [ ]<br /><br /><font color="yellow"> No<font color="white"> [ ]<br /><br /></font></font></font></font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div>________________________________________ <br /></div><div><ul><li><font color="#008000"><em>your move...</em></font></li></ul></div> </div>