Underwater pressure generator

[CreatedEvolution]

This sounds off topic but with this invention it has potential to be a perpetual motion machine. The device consists of 3 blades weights balloons and hoses. When one weighted balloon shrinks it pushes air to a balloon on the opposite side of the weighted blade that the air now pulls up. The 3 blades are offset on a cylinder to allow room for blade extension and balloon on opposite side. I believe this has true potential to move as long as the ocean is there. Please give positive feedback. This is science not a theory.

This has to do with space because all you need is deep water to generate electricity

 

[COLGeek]

Build it and see.

As noted previously, you sure have a lot of ideas. Have you actually done anything with any of them?

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Build it and see.

As noted previously, you sure have a lot of ideas. Have you actually done anything with any of them?

I unfortunately am poor. You sure like to discredit a good idea. Will you enlighten me on my flaws

 

[billslugg]

No, I will not refrain from making negative comments, but I will make them only when warranted and I will give my reasons. In cases where an impossibility is claimed, I usually just ignore it. I don't try and understand anything outside of the mainstream. I can't understand the mainstream. I have a policy of not understanding only one thing at a time. Perpetual motion will have to wait.

 

[COLGeek]

I unfortunately am poor. You sure like to discredit a good idea. Will you enlighten me on my flaws

It is not a matter of discrediting anyone.

Anyone can have notions and it is great to discuss those ideas with others. However, you need to do the work to prove your ideas and to respond to others. Not the other way around.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

This was just a generator potential solution harnessing gravity water and air hypothetically. I calculated an example and changed the process.

The three blades have two opposite ends. Side A and side B side. Side A is cup shaped facing down with a hose to travel to side B that is opposite cup shaped.

If 20 pounds of weight brings down ten pounds of air then the weight should make air travel down in A cup. When A cup is far enough down air is transferred to B cup I ran into the problem of energy.

I found a solution using 5 12 v air pumps that are statied to deliver A back to A cup that also has an opposing cup that does not consume air at top. A small balloon like device might be most affordable then it could send air from one side while catching it in the other.

The weight should for example be 20 pounds in A that has 10 pounds of transferable air on one side while just catching bubbles and releasing on the other side. The pump and weight may generate 10 rpm hopefully and with large underwater gears you can amplify the generators rpm to power the pumps to refill the tank. I apologize sincerely for being negative

That’s the idea that I thought had potential. That’s the idea it’s not finalized but it was a thinker storm.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

U need 5 100 psi tanks to release if it rotates at 10 rpm you will need 50 psi a min making the requirements you will need to release 1800 psi per hour and have giant gears leading to smaller to get faster rpm

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Parts will wear of course

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Even if it’s 1 rpm underwater gear large enough let say 100 foot gear half that size is 2rpms. 25 is 4 rpm 12.5 is 8 rpm and 4 is 16 rpm a 2foot final peace would be 32 rpms I’m not sure I will admit it’s impossible but I love thinking it’s all I can afford to do. At 32 rpms you may meet the required voltage to power air pump to deliver air to side A that has no air

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Yeah I had fun challenging the impossible. I think it will not work but so far I think that’s my closest idea to perpetual motion but gears wear in pump fast being 12v

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I like even theories that sound so crazy it might work. I think if mankind puts there efforts together we will solve problems. And I do not think Covid will be as bad as what’s to come. But just as always without perfect order it will always get worse and better.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I am not 100% on this scientifically but if it makes advancements I would say motion can be generated by existing electrons and gravity.

 

[George²]

I unfortunately am poor. You sure like to discredit a good idea. Will you enlighten me on my flaws

The device described, could be made as a prototype for a few dollars, if you take care that the manual labor is done by you and not by a hired laborer.

 

[George²]

Even if it’s 1 rpm underwater gear large enough let say 100 foot gear half that size is 2rpms. 25 is 4 rpm 12.5 is 8 rpm and 4 is 16 rpm a 2foot final peace would be 32 rpms I’m not sure I will admit it’s impossible but I love thinking it’s all I can afford to do. At 32 rpms you may meet the required voltage to power air pump to deliver air to side A that has no air

There is a small problem with resistance of water to movement, which will take a lot of energy from a rotating underwater device. Not to mention that a full-scale build would hardly be able to rotate at that speed.There is a small problem with water resistance, which will take a lot of energy from a rotating underwater device. Not to mention that a full-scale build would hardly be able to rotate at that speed.

 

[Classical Motion]

I remember some old research that showed that emitting an air bubble from the tip of a torpedo can let the torpedo fly under water at over one hundred MPH.

So under some circumstances, water resistance can be replaced with air resistance.

 

[George²]

I don't know what you remember, but if it was something that worked, such torpedoes would already exist.

 

[Classical Motion]

Search "Supercavitation". And read all about it.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

This is the knowledge I love. I hoped to obtain at least 1-2 rpm that can be magnified due to gear being as big as mill vs. wind mill gear boxes are compact. Thank you for the time and effort.

I was looking at water generators. They all seem to be dependent on current which we could improvise. If we could harness water pressure we would have steady energy and slow and steady can win the race. Eric laithwaite and the magnetic river is great breakthroughs in energy. I’m just wondering why we all don’t have magnetic river generators. It is a stream of magnets not water.

I love spending hours in science at a time. Lately I have been studying generators on YouTube.

 

[billslugg]

Skin friction can be reduced or eliminated by a cavitation bubble or a lot of tiny air bubbles. What cannot be eliminated is the horsepower needed to push the thing against the oncoming water. The pressure at the nose of the torpedo is a function of the square of the speed. The cross sectional area x drag coefficient x pressure x speed equals horsepower. Lots of horsepower.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I will research that

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I remember some old research that showed that emitting an air bubble from the tip of a torpedo can let the torpedo fly under water at over one hundred MPH.

So under some circumstances, water resistance can be replaced with air resistance.

Wind and solar are dependent on the weather. With a body of water and air pressure we now have controlled weather conditions. An air current would be there but would there be enough energy generated from the gears and magnets to refill the air tanks?

I literally see this generator idea with as much potential as the earth has to the sun.

The winter phase could be considered the pumps repumping the air to tank and the summer phase is expelled air pressure. I consider winter we drift away while summer we are reheated to propel to winter distance.

It was a fun idea in attempt to harness water gravity and air. I feel combined all 3 can make a man made generator that harnesses air current.

It would be amazing to see 1 rpm go to 1000 but this is just food for thought.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

10 gears should obtain 1000 rpm if we can obtain 1 rpm with the blades

 

[George²]

Search "Supercavitation". And read all about it.

We are off topic when discussing torpedo with super cavitation because its target, for use and costs are good for military purposes. I don't see how it could be useful for civilian equipment, with its much larger dimensions, very different shape, and pursuit of profit.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

It had me wonder of the possibilities. a crab can create cavitation. It may have been off topic but it broadened my thinking on possibilities. Farfetched or not.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I am receiving some money early next year. I will be doing one or two science studies slash experiment.

For this I would like to see how much electricity I could generate if I can using bubbles in a fish tank. I theorize that gears may need to be out of water for less friction. I am wondering if I will be able to mimic a small generator using a strong magnet and a coil of wires to create alternating frequencies.

This experiment will include the potential generator and a battery with an air tank and air pump . With specially built 6 spots to receive air to turn a gear.

I want to keep this cheap but I know the bigger the better especially with gears. So I might have a budget of 1,000$ if I really feel like it will work I will keep it for good science.

I am still researching generators and emfs. I may give up on the project. However if I do make the generator I will have video by April.