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kdavis007

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I woud like to announce a new space group. The new group is called United Space Development Team. <br /><br />What is United Space Development Team (USDT)? One of the main goals of USDT is to be a catalyst for groups doing mechinical work on space aquisition.<br /><br />For more information go http://unitedspacedev.org .
 
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scottb50

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J.W. is back again! Nice picture. Sorry no money though. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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jwsmith

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Scottb50 writes: >>J.W. is back again! Nice picture. Sorry no money though. <<<br /><br />Yes, it is me again. And yes I do not have a lot of money. Nor do I have any national recognition outside of a few circles.<br /><br />What I do have that you seem not to have is the determination to get the job of private space occupation done in my lifetime. <br /><br />Along with most of the rest of the people here at space.com you want to talk, direct and tell people who are doing, that they should do it your way, without your help either in ideas, time or money. <br /><br />Yep, it is me again and I will be here for a long time to come and I will get the job done without the likes of you.<br /><br /> John Wayne Smith, CEO, 1000Planets, Inc. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2">John Wayne Smith, CEO</font></p><p><font size="2">1000 Planets, Inc</font></p><p><font size="2">Http://www.1000Planets.com</font></p><p><font size="2">203 W.Magnolia St.</font></p><p><font size="2">Leesbutg Florida 34748</font></p><p><font size="2">Ph: 352 787 5550</font></p><p><font size="2">email jwsmith42000@aol.com</font></p> </div>
 
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scottb50

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Actually what I meant was; I don't have any money to give to you. You're finances are not any of my business, and I do hope you get the job done, or at least somebody does. I think our presence in Space is inevitable and the sooner we start working toward that goal the better. <br /><br />I have voiced a lot of my ideas here, and to you personally at one point. The problem I see is you are the one that wants to be in charge and everybody should be facilitating your goals and asperations. So far I see some creative web page designers and poor spellers, which doesn't add up to much of an army. <br /><br />One thing I have found on this board is that hearing a lot of different opinions can be very helpful with refining an idea, but that doesn't mean you have to bend with every wind that goes by either. I find it an advantage to discuss ideas rather than play follow the leader. <br /><br />I would hope someone would see the value in some of the ideas I have brought up here and want to facilitate them, but I don't think that's what a forum like this is for, actually I think it is against the TOS to advertise and ask for money.<br /> <br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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jwsmith

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Scottb50 writes: >> I have voiced a lot of my ideas here, and to you personally at one point. The problem I see is you are the one that wants to be in charge and everybody should be facilitating your goals and asperations. <<<br /><br />Had you ever paid attention you would understand just how wrong you are here. I would gladly give up the responsibility to any Man, Woman, Child or Andriod who would take the responsibility and shoulder the cost. <br /><br />I joined 1000Planets to just be a supporter of an active effort and accidentally wound up as owner just to keep that effort alive. It cost me plenty per year. I would gladly put that money into developing my inventions. <br /><br />I will sell (or give) my share of 1000Planets to anyone who will agree to maintain the work and ideas and I will go to work for them under their direction. <br />I will actively help anyone who is actively working for such a goal. Who has a good plan and will not quit right in the middle of something. <br /><br /> />> So far I see some creative web page designers and poor spellers, which doesn't add up to much of an army. << <br /><br />Could you be more specific on that. And I would spell check my own work before posting.<br /><br /> />> One thing I have found on this board is that hearing a lot of different opinions can be very helpful with refining an idea, but that doesn't mean you have to bend with every wind that goes by either. I find it an advantage to discuss ideas rather than play follow the leader. <<<br /><br />I read and studied everything posted on these boards for over a year and I did learn a little but most of it was just hot air. Nothing I learned here did enough to help what I learned 30 years ago to really make any differance.<br /><br /> />> I would hope someone would see the value in some of the ideas I have brought up here and want to facilitate them, but I don't think that's what a forum like this is for, actually I think it is against the <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2">John Wayne Smith, CEO</font></p><p><font size="2">1000 Planets, Inc</font></p><p><font size="2">Http://www.1000Planets.com</font></p><p><font size="2">203 W.Magnolia St.</font></p><p><font size="2">Leesbutg Florida 34748</font></p><p><font size="2">Ph: 352 787 5550</font></p><p><font size="2">email jwsmith42000@aol.com</font></p> </div>
 
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propforce

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<font color="yellow">I read and studied everything posted on these boards for over a year and I did learn a little but most of it was just hot air. Nothing I learned here did enough to help what I learned 30 years ago to really make any differance</font><br /><br />Wow, what arrogance <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /><br /><br />Perhaps your mind is clutterred with some much junk that there is no room for new ideas.<br /><br /><br /><br /><i>It is better to keep mouth shut and have other think you're an idiot, rather than to remove all doubt by opening your mouth</i><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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rogers_buck

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Humm,<br /><br />The Earth and Space Foundationprize has this to say:<br />"the Foundation has established Mars and Lunar Exploration Awards, which include awards for future explorers who trek across the Martian ice caps and scale Olympus Mons. The Foundation has a separate long-term endowment growth fund for these awards. "<br /><br />I take it somewhere on their web site they spell out the details of these awards, but the key sentence I was looking for was the "endowment growth fund."<br /><br />Your site says only:<br /><br />"The Mars Prize is an effort to close the gap between the X-Prize and the Mars Exploration Prizes of The Earth and Space Foundation. The Mars prize will start out with a goal of collecting $300,000 to be awarded to the winner. If donations and entry fees exceed that amount the prize will increase in value."<br /><br />A couple of points.<br />1) You say close the gap, but then you say it is $300K to be awarded to the winner. The question is winner of what? I couldn't find that answer on your site, so I am concluding that you mean the winner of the Earth and Space Foundation prize.<br />2) Your prize is for principal only. You say if more than $300K is collected you will increase the purse. Now, given that the difficulties of traveling to Mars, surviving there, let alone traversing both poles by land and climbing mount Olympus are so significant that nobody will be claiming this prize for a long, long, time. The E&S Foundation's prize will be invested and will grow anually at around 10%. So with compound growth the prize will be extremely large by the time it is claimed. You prize, however, will remain $300K and all the interest earned will go to support what? No mention of that on your web site.<br /><br />I don't know you so I am not going to suggest that this whole thing is a scam or the like. I will, however, suggest that you clarify the prize and give an accounting as to what use the interest from the prize money will be put.<br /><br />
 
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davp99

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"The Winner of What ?"<br /><br />The United Space Development Team is the keeper of the "Mars Prize" which will be awarded to the group that established the first permanent colony on Mars.<br /><br />Haha, 300 grand for a permanent colony on Mars, Hey, Count me in...<img src="/images/icons/crazy.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="4">Dave..</font> </div>
 
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jwsmith

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propforce writes: >> Wow, what arrogance Perhaps your mind is cluttered with some much junk that there is no room for new ideas. <<<br /><br />You are right I am arrogant. People like you do little but talk and waste the time of people who do. I put new ideas as well as old into practice. What do you do? <br /><br /><br /> />> It is better to keep mouth shut and have other think you're an idiot, rather than to remove all doubt by opening your mouth <<<br /><br />And you just showed your are an idiot. Why did you open your mouth?<br /><br />rogers_buck writes: />> I don't know you so I am not going to suggest that this whole thing is a scam or the like. I will, however, suggest that you clarify the prize and give an accounting as to what use the interest from the prize money will be put. <<<br /><br />I am actually very easy to get to know and easy to get along with especially when one ask intelligent questions like you do. It may be some weeks but I will attend to the items you suggest even there is a 99% probability that all the prize money will come from me. <br /><br /><br /><br />Davp99 writes: />> "The Winner of What ?" <br /><br />The United Space Development Team is the keeper of the "Mars Prize" which will be awarded to the group that established the first permanent colony on Mars. <br /><br />Haha, 300 grand for a permanent colony on Mars, Hey, Count me in... <<<br /><br />Even though you are trying to be sarcastic, I will count you in as long as you follow the rules. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2">John Wayne Smith, CEO</font></p><p><font size="2">1000 Planets, Inc</font></p><p><font size="2">Http://www.1000Planets.com</font></p><p><font size="2">203 W.Magnolia St.</font></p><p><font size="2">Leesbutg Florida 34748</font></p><p><font size="2">Ph: 352 787 5550</font></p><p><font size="2">email jwsmith42000@aol.com</font></p> </div>
 
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propforce

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<i>propforce writes: >> Wow, what arrogance Perhaps your mind is cluttered with some much junk that there is no room for new ideas. << <br /><br />You are right I am arrogant. People like you do little but talk and waste the time of people who do. I put new ideas as well as old into practice. What do you do? <br /><br /><br /> />> It is better to keep mouth shut and have other think you're an idiot, rather than to remove all doubt by opening your mouth << <br /><br />And you just showed your are an idiot. Why did you open your mouth? </i><br /><br />WOW... it took you 9 days to come up with this comeback? Very good Albert ! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />But surely we do not need to act like children. By doing so, we set bad examples for youngsters to follow. Surely at this age, we ought to have learned how to resolve conflicts and disagreements with words and ideas and not play a cyber-bully, have we not? <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br /><i>".... I read and studied everything posted on these boards for over a year and I did learn a little but most of it was just hot air. ..."</i><br /><br />Then why are you here? Recruiting? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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kdavis007

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I'm sure there are people who would join USDT who comes here..
 
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jwsmith

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propforce wirtes: >> WOW... it took you 9 days to come up with this comeback? Very good Albert ! <<<br /><br />I seldom visit here. Before this few visits it had been 3 months since I had thought about this place. I did not even know that the pervious system had crashed and I had to re register. I considered it a week before I did reregister. 9 days is a short time considered. <br />Even though 1000Planets started here I am sure that it will be even longer before I answer your next jab. <br /><br /> />> But surely we do not need to act like children. By doing so, we set bad examples for youngsters to follow. Surely at this age, we ought to have learned how to resolve conflicts and disagreements with words and ideas and not play a cyber-bully, have we not? <<<br /><br />Yes, I have and that is one reason why I visit here so seldom. What is holding you back. You can e mail me @ ceo@1000Planets.com.<br /><br /> />> ".... I read and studied everything posted on these boards for over a year and I did learn a little but most of it was just hot air. ..." <<<br /><br />Then why are you here? Recruiting? <br /><br />Yes and the fact that 1000Planets started in these forums back in January 2001. I just come by to post updates from time to time. <br /><br />However a private, for profit business is not always the best way to get people to collaborate. Some people are more comfortable with a not for profit membership organization. <br /><br />There were no such organizations available that did not fully support Earth governments control of space. As a person who does not believe that Earth Governments have a place in Space we started one. <br /><br />While we will abide by the rules and regulations of Earth based governments on Earth and in near Earth space we will not do so in other parts of space. <br />We will not accept funding from any Earth based government for many reasons. <br /><br />As a responsible freedom lovin <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2">John Wayne Smith, CEO</font></p><p><font size="2">1000 Planets, Inc</font></p><p><font size="2">Http://www.1000Planets.com</font></p><p><font size="2">203 W.Magnolia St.</font></p><p><font size="2">Leesbutg Florida 34748</font></p><p><font size="2">Ph: 352 787 5550</font></p><p><font size="2">email jwsmith42000@aol.com</font></p> </div>
 
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