What provokes your understanding of the universe the most?

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ramayana

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<font color="black"><b>What provokes your understanding of the universe the most?</b></font>/b><br /><br />Within <b>cosmology’s</b> realm... <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /><br /><br />To me there's three that stand out most.. <br /><br />1) Black holes & their theoretical singularity<br />2) The light speed barrier<br />3) The moments before big bang theory can define<br /><br />What if you could choose any one of them to gain a significantly better understanding of our universe, and its implications?<br /><br />Would we enter the next grand advancement of our civilization? <br /><br />What would be your favorite candidate to enlightenment of our universe? <br /><br />Science only please <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /><br /><br />Edit: deleted some Jibberish <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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I have no doubt because its presence is so much a part of our lifes:<br /><br />GRAVITY<br /><br />Its the most studied and yet the least understood force in the universe.<br /><br />If I had to choose from the ones you give:<br /><br />The light speed barrier<br /><br />I do not like determinism and a limit on how fast we can travel is just that. Besides that it would allow us to became explorers in our universe instead of limited to be explorers in our solar system.
 
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vogon13

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I usually hate puzzles and riddles. And most objects in the universe are just ho-hum. <br />But a few objects seem to inspire an almost mono-mania in me that I find compells me to understand them.<br /><br /><br />Having some poseurs around spewing twaddle and piffle about those same objects seems to help too.<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>
 
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ramayana

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You don't have to choose from my fav canidates...<br /><br />Gravity - They all seem related somehow huh?<br /><br />Anyone see Science Channel Docu's on Einstein this morning? Exploring Einstein.... His 'theory of everything' failure... And his dislike for quantum mechanics...
 
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kyle_baron

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Studying the strange dimension of Quantum Mechanics does it for me <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="4"><strong></strong></font></p> </div>
 
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qso1

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I agree with SEARCH on this one...gravity, and for the reason SEARCH stated. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>
 
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Yes you are right. <br />They all are related. But I guess that is the inevitebility of GR. It may not be the unified theory but it sure got a lot of things together.<br />As Al Pacino (Womens Scent) said to his cat: "when in doubt, f."
 
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doubletruncation

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I think this is an interesting question. One thing I would very much like to understand is human conciousness. My gut feeling is that it is not something that is fundamental to the universe as a whole, that we are probably nothing more than biological machines, but I do think that to truly understand anything we need to understand ourselves. I don't know that it would ever be possible for our brains to understand intuitively how subjective conciousness arises, but I do think that it may be possible to understand the machinery of conciousness and to design and implement our own concious machines. Along similar lines, I think knowing if life (or other complex processes like life) is common or rare outside the Earth will be very important in understanding ourselves and our place in the universe. I also suspect that understanding dark matter/energy may significantly affect our understanding of the universe. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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djtt

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right now light speed<br />'dlike to go on a cruise somewhere soon, sometime before i turn 70 <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />
 
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newtonian

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Ramayana - What promotes or incites my trying to gain an understanding of the universe the most is:<br /><br />1. The invitation at Romans 1:20 for us to learn about the attributes of God by perceiving the things made - notably astronomy (also all of the other sciences). That incites me the most because I love God. I also love science.<br /><br />Others near the top of the list:<br /><br />2. How were the laws of our universe created?<br /><br />3. How were the properties of our universe fine tuned to favor life. <br /><br />3.A. For example, how was the relative strength of gravity compared with the other forces of physics set or determined at the creation of our universe.<br /><br />4. Those awesome and beautiful Hubble photos!<br /><br />SEARCH- Clearly we do not fully appreciate the gravity of the matter (pun intended)!
 
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newtonian

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doubletruncation - Interesting post.<br /><br />Life cannot arise by chance - as a close examination of details such as chemistry proves. <br /><br />Therefore, intelligence is part of our universe - yet our universe is not intelligent in and of itself.<br /><br />I suspect the degree of intelligence required to create a conscious artificial intelligence is beyond the ability of human creators and requires a creator of higher intelligence and ability.<br /><br />That, of course, also is relevant to SETI - the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.<br /><br />On how rare or common life is in our universe: I suspect our Creator would have created life elsewhere rather just on this little spec in our universe: earth.<br /><br />But I do not know - nor do any scientists yet. <br /><br />The question is also relevant if one does not believe in intelligent design but rather the chance creation of life - but the latter belief has no scientific basis.
 
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MeteorWayne

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Newtonian stated as fact:<br /><br />"Life cannot arise by chance - as a close examination of details such as chemistry proves. "<br /><br />That is your opinion (well, probably not even yours)<br /><br />There is no PROOF one way or the other.<br /><br />Another hypothesis is that given billions of years with earth's conditions it can arise by chance.<br /><br />IMO, of course <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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sponge

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I read a book once ,called Impossibilities,<br /><br />It was written by a collaborative of scientific minds, the book essentially was about human potential in relation to the universe, the universe being nature<font color="yellow">( How it was described in the book)<font color="white"><br /><br />Any way the book produced 4 main views, they are as follows:<br /><br />1. The Universe is unlimited – Human potential is unlimited<br />2. They’re both limited<br />3. The Universe is unlimited – Human potential is limited<br />4. The Universe is limited – Human potential is unlimited<br /><br />The book went on about the pros and cons of each topic, and they finally settled on choice 3.<br /><br />They chose this because of our current knowledge of evolution, A few reasons are:<br /><br />No species were over endowed with more than it needed to survive<br />Our brain is finite in size and therefore can only hold a finite amount of information<br />The difference between the unknown and the unknowable ( Quite an interesting subject when you get into it.)<br />The creation of the universe its vastness and on how little is understood and the technologies needed to get to the nearest star even etc.<br /><br />I wont recite the whole book for you, but the point that it was trying to make, was that no matter how smart we think we can get, nature/universe will always be master, and us the by product of its existence. Therefore in all natures glory it has taken us into account, just has it has done other species, in meaning nature must already know the full potential of our existence, and apparently nature thru evolution will update a few designs here and there just to keeps things improving. <br /><br />With this said if we are an evolutionary design, there is no way we can get ahead of nature, the one thing that has been a question of mine when I think of the universe, and ill have to agree with Doubletruncuation here, is ourselves. <br /><br />Here is a question for you all, if evolution is the design</font></font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><u>SPONGE</u></em></p> </div>
 
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