<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>so what you are saying is that what I said could happen, therefore, it is correct as opposed to incorrect, or at the very least possible. Orion could be stuck on top of Ares V with no passengers, or they could just send it all up manned, and so forth. Given that SpaceX is actually going to fly, and they are ahead of ares I by about seven years, I am epxecting Ares I to be cancelled. Rutan is also planning to go, and so, I would expect him to also beat 2014 or 2015. I didn't even mention Rutan. <br /> Posted by job1207</DIV></p><p> I doubt that commercial space could take the shoes of Constellation program at this time. I hope the Ares launchers will be NASA's last, and that commerical space can provide launchers for any mission in the future when Ares are retired. But for now I believe Ares launchers will fly. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>