Ares V applications beyond the moon

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lampblack

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Earlier today, I stumbled across this rather intriguing look at possible ways to use the Ares V for an assortment of astrophysics missions that aren't possible using today's launch vehicles.<br /><br />It led me to wonder if the assembled brain trust here had given much thought to how the vehicle might be used -- above and beyond the planned lunar missions. Although the Ares V gets mentioned from time to time within the context of lunar architecture, I haven't noticed much actual conversation here as to <i>other</i> ways the vehicle might be used.<br /><br />Share your thoughts? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>
 
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Big L-point telescopes, asteroid missions, the "Cradle"asteroid interceptor....we all could come up with lists as long as your arm, but first NASA has to convince Congress to grow some common sense & pony up the funding. <br /><br />Given the crew in there now, on both sides, that likelihood is vanishingly remote. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Seems to me that these sorts of conversations need to happen before anyone goes and asks Congress for money. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />It might be fun and ultimately useful to see what ideas (besides the rather intriguing ones in the link above) folks are kicking around. If any... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>
 
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A JIMO type mission would be nice. <br /><br />BFR's let you do all manner of complex missions. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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The Gravitational Lens distance from the Sun is around 550 AU. NASA has plans to send a Nuclear powered telescope to that distance. An Ares V could put a massive payload into LEO & we'd be on our way. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>
 
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What telescope is that, Boris? <br /><br />I mean only Sedna has an aphelion further than that (907 AU). How can we get a scope out that far?<br /><br />Must be a mission I missed?<br /><br />Getting to LEO has not much to do with putting a telescope at that distance. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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A Deep Space Mission to the Solar Foci <br /><br /> This is a 200 plus page PDF document from NASA. The same mission is described in it somewhere.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>
 
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Thanx Boris!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Very interesting thread lampblack.<br /><br />Thank you for starting it.<br /><br />Hi Boris1969,<br /><br />IIRC the Thousand Astronomical Unit mission was to have been a fields & particals probe,<br />not unlike the hugely successful Solar Polar Ulysses Spacecraft.<br />The TAU was to use Jupiter's gravity to place it on a solar flyby (this would have been<br />quicker than using a Mariner 10 type Earth departure apparently, dunno how though)<br />then Sol's gravity would accellerate the craft to Thousand AU & possibly operating beyond.<br /><br />The Solar Foci, is interesting. Using the Sun as a gravitational lens.<br /><br />Yes it would achieve many of the objectives of the defunct TAU mission, though the Solar Foci<br />would be 'only' 55% as far out.<br /><br />Interesting.<br /><br />I can see Ares V being used for asteroid missions too IMO, particularly NEAs.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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