As Expansion continues, Time speeds up, True or False?

[Gibsense]

As mass density increases within a given volume, the gravitational field strengthens, and this has a direct impact on the flow of time. According to Einstein's theory, time runs more slowly in stronger gravitational fields and more quickly in deep space.

As the Reference frame for the whole Universe is diluted (the gravitational field is weakened), the speed of time increases. True or False?

 

[Catastrophe]

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[Gibsense]

Thank you for the reference, but I would like to clarify my question: Does that principle from your link apply to the universe as a whole? If it does, then time in the universe must be speeding up—unless additional material is being injected or created within the universe to maintain or increase its density.

 

[Catastrophe]

As I have posted elsewhere,

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I do not believe that "The Universe" has any real meaning. "observable universe"s are (by definition) all that anyone (any observer anywhere, any time) can observe. There is no specific universe anywhere without an observer. This is circuitous. Asking whether there can be a universe without an observer is therefore either a philosophical question or semantic nonsense.

It comes back to the flatland (observable) universes - a (D + 1) observer (such as humans) could see any number of flatland universes (if they existed). "The Universe" would require an observer with infinite sense range over time, which I believe is nonsense. Hence the philosophical aspect.

Cat

 

[Catastrophe]

Thank you for the reference, but I would like to clarify my question: Does that principle from your link apply to the universe as a whole? If it does, then time in the universe must be speeding up—unless additional material is being injected or created within the universe to maintain or increase its density.

Beyond my post #4, I do not understand your question.

Cat

 

[Classical Motion]

The “evidence” of expansion is very old. The oldest evidence. For all we know, the “universe” might have expanded long ago, and ceased expanding long ago.

It might have reversed and be contracting now.

At those rates and the speed of light, it might get contracted before we can see it.

The present state of this cosmos is impossible to determine.

 

[Catastrophe]

CM, that request was directed to Gibsense.

Regarding #6, you state:

The present state of this cosmos is impossible to determine.

By "this cosmos", I assume that you mean "The Universe", not some "observed universe".
Is that correct?

In other words, I take it not to disagree with my suggestion, that such information could only be understood by a being able to appreciate the influence of "a higher dimension".
Is that correct?

Cat

 

[billslugg]

The gravitational constant is not affected by the density of mass in the universe, it stands on its own. The constant is determined by a torsion balance, which performs independently of local gravity.

 

[Classical Motion]

Cat, my comment was a general comment in response to the title of the thread. And the premise of the first post.

The terms in quotes are so that they can fit different contexts and still relay the general idea.

I believe the observable fades into the unobservable to define the universe and can also be called the cosmos. Everything out there, seen or not. There’s no difference for me for I don’t think space has a boundary. To expand or contract.

Didn’t mean to interrupt or object to you.

 

[billslugg]

The Universe is everything there is. This would include areas beyond the visible edge, alternate dimensions, hidden universes, alternate realities, whatever.

 

[Catastrophe]

The Universe is everything there is. This would include areas beyond the visible edge, alternate dimensions, hidden universes, alternate realities, whatever.

billslugg, Yes, but . . . . . . "everything there is "according to whom?

 

[Classical Motion]

I think the unobservable universe is just like the observable universe. There is no edge. Space can not be bound, squeezed or stretched. No demeans or dragons, No alternatives and no suppositions or imaginations.

The motion of matter in space is very restricted and limited, and would be familiar everywhere.

 

[Catastrophe]

I have a definition of science as:

the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.

and scientific method as:

a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

Further:

In science, guesswork, or more precisely, the initial formulation of hypotheses, plays a crucial role in the process of scientific discovery. These initial guesses, even if not entirely accurate, provide a starting point for experimentation and investigation, guiding scientists towards developing more refined theories.

But what happens when these hypotheeses cannot produce any starting point for experimentation and investigation in order to develop more refined theories?

I am not criticising science. I have a B.Sc. (Hons), and the whole of my professional working life was based in science - surfactant science in particular. My spare time interests have also been science based - including Cosmology and Astronomy, in addition to General Semantics. I am just interested in subjects like the Big Bang and questions such as singularities and expansion.

Cat

 

[Gibsense]

The gravitational constant is not affected by the density of mass in the universe, it stands on its own. The constant is determined by a torsion balance, which performs independently of local gravity.

• The gravitational constant ( G ) describes the effect of mass on other masses in terms of gravitational attraction.
• It is a fundamental constant, meaning its value does not change depending on the size of the masses interacting—it applies equally to all objects, large or small.
• Of course, the 'Force' between masses will be determined by the size of the mass involved
  
  
• Mass Density (Not ( G )) Shapes Time Evolution. General relativity tells us that strong gravitational fields slow time. In our evolving universe, space is expanding (due to dark energy?), causing regions with lower mass density to experience faster time progression than dense areas.
  
  
• My question suggests that the universe, as a whole, is expanding (without additional mass added) and lowering mass density and therefore the 'proper time ' (Cosmic Time) is speeding up.

PS! In other posts, I may argue that the mass density will vary due to added mass by specific causes and therefore time for large areas may progress at different rates - but that;s a different post!