Question black holes

[Gibsense]

A rotation 4 times faster where the radius is small to a rotation where the radius is large does not necessarily give a time dilation difference between the two. If, that is, the dilation expected results from speed of travel (movement through space) as observed from outside the system (SR). Maybe I miss the point (?)
There is a complication if the rotation speeds are exceptionally high. In the context of general relativity, rotating massive objects can cause the surrounding spacetime to "drag." However -in the case of the sun - this would not be noticeable . Er, I think.

 

[Questioner]

Time dilation means time runs relatively slower there which means with normal rotation there it should rotate slower there to the external viewer not faster.

 

[Gibsense]

Time dilation means time runs relatively slower there which means with normal rotation there it should rotate slower there to the external viewer not faster.

The gravity of the sun would rotate time to run slower. OK, I get that bit. So with time running slower, the rotation appears to be slower. OK, I get it. But how does all this relate to the different rotation speed comparison 4x inside to 1x outer bit? I think I miss the thread I guess.
Oh just realised you are discussing black holes whereas I thought your comments were about our sun - or am I wrong again - sorry

 

[Questioner]

Well in the Sun its variant rotation demonstrates contracted space in its mass field.

So I just carry the consistent principle over to the mas field of a BH where it all becomes radically extreme.

 

[Gibsense]

Well in the Sun its variant rotation demonstrates contracted space in its mass field.

So I just carry the consistent principle over to the mas field of a BH where it all becomes radically extreme.

Oh, I see. Unfortunately, this doesn't work in current theory. The Star in a Black Hole is a singularity - or nearly so. It produces mega-intense gravity that produces a sort of boundary - the event horizon. Between the two is space.
Most black Holes spin (some at a significant part of c) and produce frame dragging (space and time dragging). This is what affects light and particles nearby to define an apparent boundary of the black hole. This is just a result of the spin of the original (now rigid) star as it collapsed.
If not spinning and very large you probably would not notice it until too late as you entered the Swartzchild radius (except for bent light, lol)

 

[Fest3er]

The 'black hole' was invented to explain how the monstrous body of galaxies can rotate and drag their star families with them. Added to this was the 'dark matter' idea to explain how fast the outermost stars were whizzing around. So that's two dark invisble entities invented to explain the galaxy. Not a good start if you want me to believe in a GRAVITY Universe!

Our question shows what ridiculous conclusions these inventions lead to: "..most of the galaxies, if not all are rotating around a super massive black hole and if so does that mean that black holes are eventually going to suck all the matter...down a plug hole "

It is such nonsense but luckily scientists can prove it to their liking with mathemagical equations which we all accept...NOT! So what is a better, more logical alternative? I suggest the simplest electric motor ever discovered explains all the evidence. Michael Faraday demonstrated the homopolar motor in 1821. All he needed was an simple conductor, a magnetic field and a flow of electricity. So do we have that inside a galaxy? Certainly we do.

Every magnetic field in space is indication of a flowing current. Every galaxy is basically a disk of conductive ionised hydrogen (PLASMA). All three component parts needed for this motor to work. This negates the need for black holes and dark matter because it just works!

There is good evidence for black holes. Even a picture of the event horizon around a black hole. Dark matter on the other hand, seems like fairy dust. It’s basically a mathematical fudge factor. No one knows what it might be, or if it truly exists.

 

[Questioner]

Black hole spin could be coming from inside, the other side of the/a singularity.

An absolute singularity might just dislodge from space-time altogether but in reality something could be very nearly a singularity.

 

[Gibsense]

I was also under the impression that once attraction takes hold and anything that's pulled passed the event horizon and taken into the belly of the beast (so to speak) could never escape not even light could escape the massive gravitational forces, but Steven Hawking proved without a doubt that wasn't actually correct with what's now known as Hawking radiation.

Ah! Gravitational waves gradually weaken orbits, and everything is ultimately heading toward a singular fate, although it takes eons (or so I hope). Imagine a universe filled with gravity wells that are continuously growing and merging within a spherical cosmos. Eventually, these wells start to overlap and deepen, creating a spiky shape reminiscent of a sea urchin that goes "Pop!"

 

[E.B.E1]

Ah! Gravitational waves gradually weaken orbits, and everything is ultimately heading toward a singular fate, although it takes eons (or so I hope). Imagine a universe filled with gravity wells that are continuously growing and merging within a spherical cosmos. Eventually, these wells start to overlap and deepen, creating a spiky shape reminiscent of a sea urchin that goes "Pop!"

"ABSOLUTELY INEVITABLE" i believe with out a doubt everything that goes into making the bigger picture of which we are a part of is cyclical and repetitive building pressure over eons and pop again and again over and over but it's what, where or when we've been popping into and will that pop too!!
Is it popping all the way

 

[550W]

I had a bold idea that in the next 50 to 150 years we might be able to send detectors to black holes.

 

[Gibsense]

"ABSOLUTELY INEVITABLE" i believe with out a doubt everything that goes into making the bigger picture of which we are a part of is cyclical and repetitive building pressure over eons and pop again and again over and over but it's what, where or when we've been popping into and will that pop too!!
Is it popping all the way

It's looking that way!

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Am i correct in saying that most of the galaxies, if not all are rotating around a super massive black hole and if so does that mean that black holes are eventually going to suck all the matter inside their galaxies like water getting sucked down a plug hole

I theorize that the core of the bh is insanely hot where a bubble reaches the surface and when it pops a new star is formed outside the bh. This theory is a chemistry theory that does not agree with a lot of physicists theories.

 

[E.B.E1]

I theorize that the core of the bh is insanely hot where a bubble reaches the surface and when it pops a new star is formed outside the bh. This theory is a chemistry theory that does not agree with a lot of physicists theories.

If that were the case then i theorize, there would be a lot more stars orbiting closer to the dark sphere than there are now, would there not?