motion is detected on a quatum level to being moving not just toward or away from, but into and out of and sharing, exchanging within matters.<br /><br />that is the wonder of quatum or different dimensions being observed!
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No.<br /><br />There are multiple misconceptions about the Big Bang theory. For one, everyone who hasn't formally studied it believes it was some sort of explosion in space, out of which matter appeared. However, there was <i>no</i> space, time, matter, or energy before the BB occurred. It isn't a matter (uh, joke not intended) of something expanding into a region where space already existed. Nothing existed before the BB. Space and time and matter and energy were all created in the BB.<br /><br />There is no "center." <i>Everything</i> has expanded from nothing. That's why the analogy of the balloon is utilized. We exist on the surface of that balloon, and if you look at that mental image closely, where is the center? There isn't one (like most analogies, this is suspect, because it leads the layman to believe there is an "inside" to it as well as and "outside," and it's almost natural to wonder what is "inside" There <i>is</i> no inside). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
(For there to be no molecular activity whatsoever implies we've achieved the total heat-death of the universe. Everything, everywhere is at complete stop, absolute zero everywhere. )<br /><br /><br />What happen to duality in existance with matters with such diverse properties and not to mention those things created with inner exchanges?<br /><br />We are not just talking about one way or the other but inner workings that have shown that gravity is hard to grasp because it fails to show those inner workings to the naked eye.<br /><br />CosmicTalk <br /><br /><br />
I am absolutely uncertain what you just said. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
There is no "center." Everything has expanded from nothing. That's why the analogy of the balloon is utilized. We exist on the surface of that balloon, and if (you look at that mental image closely, where is the center? There isn't one (like most analogies, this is suspect, because it leads the layman to believe there is an "inside" to it as well as and "outside," and it's almost natural to wonder what is "inside" There is no inside).)<br /><br />If there was no inside than how could there be a surface?<br /><br />CosmicTalk
Again, that's a hard one for most people to grasp. In higher dimensions, a surface doesn't imply an object of physical dimensions, such that there is an "inside."<br /><br />Tell me...since you mentioned gravity (you did post poorly where I said "huh?" - you should rethink what you said)...how can simple geometry create a force?<br /><br />Or, for that matter (yeah, no joke intended again), you tell me: what is spacetime then? If you reject what I said, you clearly have an alternative. What is it? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
There are reactions taking place from motion of matters not just one or two matters, like the electro magnetic phenomena but others as well which we would love to study the inner workings and understand more in magnetic phenomena especially.<br /><br />Since time is most likely not just one lump mass as well as the universe but a inner working or possibly a reaction to electro magnetic phenomena, than who is to say that things could not be still as well as moving?<br /><br />Our bodies can be still but have motion inside taking place and around us motion taking place and inner reacting with our bodies and exchanging information on different levels.<br /><br />The same could be taking place with the matters and wonders around us.<br /><br />CosmicTalk<br /><br />The Big Bang could very well be still in the makings <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />
(what is spacetime then? If you reject what I said, you clearly have an alternative. What is it?)<br /><br />Oh no! I'm missing my favorite series Bones!<br /><br /><br />LOL! I assume space/time are forms of matters in motion!<br /><br />CosmicTalk<br /><br /><br /><br />
nothing to do with molecules for velocity. Thats electrons. <br /><br />But yes, molecules cannot be without motion as well.<br /><br />To stop the spin of an electron requires alot of energy. We can hold it in place, know its state, but not its direction. This requires a great deal of energy. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
if you're referring to a stationary object, that still holds its properties within its own system, say an atom, it is possible. <br />Its actually quite real. The event horizon. The boundary by which light can no longer escape. It is 'tired light', or light that is caught in a perpetual state of motionless. Due to angular momentum of a photon (infinite velocity), a photon will get trapped at the place where gravity of a black hole is strong enough to overcome its velocity. And there it stays in perpetual motion.<br /><br />Look up angular momentum of a photon on wikipedia.com for more. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
Yevaud<br />I can understand that a balloon has no center only if you view a three dimensional objects as two dimensional. Why are you making me view multiple dimensions at the same time?<br />Everything in geometr has a center some way or another. To reject this would be crazy. Unless I did what you are and viewed multiple dimensions at once. Even so I'm not stating this compared to matter I'm saying are universe is a timeline possibly. It makes perfect sense that time would stretch as the universe expanded. You have to view th balloon from a fith dimension in which time stays and does not just tick by and you see the center of the balloon would be at the beggining of time, but because this time was stretched so much it is still there. A infinitely small hole should have formed.<br />CosmicTalk... you look like you really learned what your talking about. I would appreciate any knowledge you could give as to how "electro magnetic phenomena" create time.<font color="yellow"></font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div>________________________________________ <br /></div><div><ul><li><font color="#008000"><em>your move...</em></font></li></ul></div> </div>
<i>I assume space/time are forms of matters in motion! </i><br /><br />Well, no. Are you referring to interial frames of reference? That's not the same thing. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
Here is another way to put!<br /><br />Everything out there that we observe is a form of matter doing something even if it is just sitting there at the time of observation.<br /><br />Space and energy are just forms of matter because they take up dimension(mass) and I believe hold forms of matter and that is why I say there is inner workings going on that we have yet to learn about.<br /><br />Do you argue that space is a form of matter, Or that energy is a form of matter?<br /><br />CosmicTalk
I would argue that space is a form of matter, yes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
That is true nova but were not just talking about velocity or electrons but all that and more. We are talking about the inner workings of matter and there is motion (which I think is very cool) (pun intended) that have no electrons that we are aware of in the magnetic phenomena.<br /><br />CosmicTalk
than how could space hold anything will out being a form of matter?<br /><br />Look at all we do know about matters holding matter. For instance crystals, you know! transformers and such!<br /><br />CosmicTalk
Spacetime is the framework on which matter and energy exist, but they're not the same thing. Space doesn't exist because matter exists.<br /><br />Does the paint create the canvas? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
No but you need the paint and canvas to create the big picture!<br /><br />The paint is made up of something and the canvas are made up of something and they create the big picture!<br /><br />CosmicTalk
LOL! I love quatum!<br /><br />What about energy? Do you believe it a form of matter? What about the idea that energy could be a form of space? Most matter seems to be a form of space as well such as co/existance and not just a singular substance which brings to mind the inner workings I was talking about.<br /><br />CosmicTalk
I believe at the begging time was so compressed due to the massivegravitational field of the last universe that all of space time was folded into one point. As all the matter and antimatter collided time was released. Putting out a canvas as you say for someone to paint on. <font color="yellow"></font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div>________________________________________ <br /></div><div><ul><li><font color="#008000"><em>your move...</em></font></li></ul></div> </div>
(I would appreciate any knowledge you could give as to how "electro magnetic phenomena" create time. )<br /><br />Not to sure if electro magnetic phenomena did create time.<br /><br />Time could be like the canvas or the anti matter, or dark matter being speculated about. Inner workings possibly between electro and magnetic properties and a friction between the two or exchange, a force possibly like gravity is sometimes considered to me open until we learn more about these inner workings.<br /><br />I do believe that the more we understand and learn on not just a subatomic level but on a macro level, we will find that things will not stay the same, and we will constantly be changing what we learn because the universe is in constant change.<br /><br />That is why the quote the Big Bang is still in the makings!
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<br /><br /><font color="yellow">that all of space time was folded into one point.</font><br /><br />I'll take that to mean that all the matter in the entire universe was at a single point. The Mother of All Black Holes, so to speak.<br /><br />We know that at just a few solar masses, a black hole is created, and the event horizon is the point of no escape for matter.<br /><br />As the "mass" of a black hole increases, so does its gravity. If infinite mass is drawn within the black hole, then gravity becomes infinite.<br /><br />I understand that matter and anti-matter annihilate one another. But even if anti matter crossed the event horizon of the Original Black Hole, how could any release of energy overcome essentially infinite gravity to release matter?<br /><br />This all makes me think that describing the beginning of the Universe (and consequently time) as an explosion is a poor description.<br /><br />Perhaps because I'm not a physicist, I haven't come across it, but is there an explanation of how a black hole could possibly reach a "critical mass" and detonate? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>
(I believe at the begging time was so compressed due to the massivegravitational field of the last universe that all of space time was folded into one point.)<br /><br />It's hard for me too to believe a whole lot of stuff like the universe came about from nothing. The only thing that even works into my equation of nothing, is death , which configures into change from one form of existance (dimension) to another. <br /><br />We can see all that taking place in cosmic rays and inner workings with biological compounds bringing fourth different dimension of time. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />
You said<br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>I understand that matter and anti-matter annihilate one another. But even if anti matter crossed the event horizon of the Original Black Hole, how could any release of energy overcome essentially infinite gravity to release matter?<br /><br /><br />Who ever said the black hole exploded outward. The opposite side of the white hole could be the interior of the event horizon. Now ther is a closed off system possibly moving in reversed time <br />-<font color="orange">I don't really believe time reverses. The movements of time are far beyond are understanding<br /><font color="white"><br />As the system became closed off as time was eaten out of the other I beleive it would no longer be effected by the other. then time would speed up again and all the matter and anti- matter would colllide.<br /><br /><font color="yellow"></font></font></font></p></blockquote> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div>________________________________________ <br /></div><div><ul><li><font color="#008000"><em>your move...</em></font></li></ul></div> </div>
This reminds me of a similar thread ! <br /><br />http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=sciastro&Number=454043&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> I even decided to copy into notes because it was unique!<br /><br />
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