# e=mc2

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#### newtonian

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electRONman - E = Ma - depends how much energy your Ma has (just kidding).<br /><br />Now if the mass turns into energy when it is accelerated to the speed of light - or, er, accelerated to the speed of light squared?<br /><br />OK, why does e=mc^2 - simply please!<br />

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#### jatslo

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Inflationary vacuum is a nagative mass with lighter elements inside and heavier elements outside. Here I will show the math: -(m) <---- There it is... hehehehehe<br /><br />

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#### Astronoid

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I have theorized that if you were to use E=MC2 in relation to the mass of the universe, you could in theory determine the amount of universes, parallel to ours, it would take to construct a "larger universe", if you knew the relative size of the larger universe.&nbsp; This I assume would be done by an equation similar to E=MC2 but instead it would be M=E something to the power of something.&nbsp; Not quite sure what it is yet. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### DrRocket

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I don't have a scientific calculator...&nbsp; = ( <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV></p><p>I do.</p><p>The equation E=mc^2 demonstrates the equivalence of matter and energy -- they really are just two aspects of the same thing.&nbsp; In principle, by using that equation you could determine the total energy content of the universe or the total mass of the universe, again the same thing.&nbsp; But to do that would require more information as input than we really have available.</p><p>It has no bearing on parallel universes.&nbsp; In fact, virtually by definition, there is no effect on our universe from anything that might be going on in some other universe, if there were, that universe would be part of our universe.&nbsp; If it can affect us, it is, by definition, part of our universe. We just don't know how big our universe is or what is included in it.&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I do.The equation E=mc^2 demonstrates the equivalence of matter and energy -- they really are just two aspects of the same thing.&nbsp; In principle, by using that equation you could determine the total energy content of the universe or the total mass of the universe, again the same thing.&nbsp; But to do that would require more information as input than we really have available.It has no bearing on parallel universes.&nbsp; In fact, virtually by definition, there is no effect on our universe from anything that might be going on in some other universe, if there were, that universe would be part of our universe.&nbsp; If it can affect us, it is, by definition, part of our universe. We just don't know how big our universe is or what is included in it.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by DrRocket</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Ok I lack the proper education, so I am going to try and make this understandable by making it simple within the abilites of my vocabulary.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Assume that the "pure" or fundamental energy of all matter in our universe was used to create a larger universe, where the atoms, subatomic particles, etc. were exponentially larger than ours currently.&nbsp; It would take the combined "pure" or fundamental energy of multiple universes to create the larger one.&nbsp; My goal is to calculate the amount of this fundemental energy it would take to create a larger universe.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Remember the energy in this "larger" universe is "relative" in size to the smaller ones.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The idea is that as the universes expand they eventaully tear apart, creating this pure energy, but because of an infinite system of universes reacting to one another this pure energy keeps forming into matter.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Another factor to think of is time, where the matter has a mass in one universe that is larger than the universes constructing it, the larger universe would "move" slower... relatively speaking. &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;dude, get off my case.... one, all your doing is annoying me, and two, it is unhealthy for a person to be so condscending. &nbsp;Just because what I say offends you based on the fact it is either in disaggrence with you,&nbsp; and/or you are simply being a brat, does not mean you need to comment on it all the time...&nbsp; you could NOT comment on it.&nbsp;Thanks so much. &nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />If you continue to respond to any discussion of your ideas with attacks of this sort, you will not last long here at Space.com.</p><p>That is official advice from a Moderator, though I do not moderate this forum.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If you continue to respond to any discussion of your ideas with attacks of this sort, you will not last long here at Space.com.That is official advice from a Moderator, though I do not moderate this forum. <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I do not like the governing rule of this forum, reminds me of a dictatorship. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh and the moderator can talk to me personally......&nbsp; if they have any problems with my conduct. &nbsp;&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;I do not like the governing rule of this forum, reminds me of a dictatorship. &nbsp;&nbsp;Oh and the moderator can talk to me personally......&nbsp; if they have any problems with my conduct. &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />If you keep it up, I assure you they will.</p><p>I was just offering advice before it gets to that point.</p><p>Have you read the rules for the forum? I would suggest you do so.</p><p>Forum Guidelines</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

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#### Mee_n_Mac

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<p>Karmac predicts&nbsp;&nbsp; ................</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/5/ee5124b4-b3a9-40ea-85c6-894d797ee7a1.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>

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#### centsworth_II

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<p><font color="#333399"><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;I do not like the governing rule of this forum, reminds me of a dictatorship.<br /> Posted by Astronoid</DIV></font><br />The internet is a large marketplace.&nbsp; If you don't like one site, you are free to peddle your wares at another site.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The internet is a large marketplace.&nbsp; If you don't like one site, you are free to peddle your wares at another site.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by centsworth_II</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HAHA! </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### rubicondsrv

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />I just deleted an post of yours contaning an ad hominem.</p><p>if you do not cease your attacks you will face sanctions.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I just deleted an post of yours contaning an ad hominem.if you do not cease your attacks you will face sanctions. <br /> Posted by rubicondsrv</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So you feel I was not wronged and that I had no reason to react the way I did...&nbsp; = (</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>How sad.......... &nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### rubicondsrv

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;So you feel I was not wronged and that I had no reason to react the way I did...&nbsp; = (&nbsp;How sad.......... &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />there is no excuse for your actions.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>there is no excuse for your actions.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by rubicondsrv</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Well considering this is all being done on technicality, with the definition of "AD HOMENIM" then I suspect that there is some discrimination going on here.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>For everyone out there, this is not me loosing this is me being pushed around by a technicality. &nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### rubicondsrv

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;For everyone out there, this is not me loosing this is me being pushed around by a technicality. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />No it is you suffering the consequences for violating the rules.</p><p>you are not being "discriminated against".</p><p>you broke the rules.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### MeteorWayne

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<p>Yes, technically:</p><p>A Latin expression meaning &ldquo;to the man.&rdquo; An ad hominem argument is one that relies on personal attacks rather than reason or substance.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p>Some people on this site may know that I was not responding unjustly, even if they do not...&nbsp; I do, and just because there is some fine line between Ad Homenim and replying sarcasticly to the substance of a post with the intention of making a person feel ignorrant in relation to what they are saying, does not mean it isn't wrong. It is a technicality </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>There is a serious problem with this forum, and I will not be pushed around. &nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### rubicondsrv

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Some people on this site may know that I was not responding unjustly, even if they do not...&nbsp; I do, and just because there is some fine line between Ad Homenim and replying sarcasticly to the substance of a post with the intention of making a person feel ignorrant in relation to what they are saying, does not mean it isn't wrong. It is a technicality &nbsp;There is a serious problem with this forum, and I will not be pushed around. &nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />so you will continue to violate fourm policy?</p><p>that will result in a swift expulsion.</p><p>this&nbsp;is a privately owened fourm&nbsp;thus you have no rights&nbsp;except those granted in the guidelines.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>as for being pushed around.</p><p>being asked to back up your claims does not constitute being pushed around.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>so you will continue to violate fourm policy?that will result in a swift expulsion.this&nbsp;is a privately owened fourm&nbsp;thus you have no rights&nbsp;except those granted in the guidelines.&nbsp;as for being pushed around.being asked to back up your claims does not constitute being pushed around.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by rubicondsrv</DIV></p><p>The intial post which started this&nbsp; and I quote "Well my guess would be what we call incoherent babbling, but this is the Unexpained, so that's OK " made by Meteorwayne &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Tell me that is not similar to an adhominem, in the sense that it is sarcastic and degrades my intelligence, and as such I have contacted others....&nbsp; I feel it was in my place to respond the way I did...&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Also you say if I continue, well have I contnued if only in the sense I am actively trying to defend myself and I am no longer making retaliatations, so it comes down to a situation where the administration, or some involved, are depressing an issue.&nbsp; This, I think, is not proper conduct of a distinguished forum. &nbsp; &nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### MeteorWayne

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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The intial post which started this&nbsp; and I quote "Well my guess would be what we call incoherent babbling, but this is the Unexpained, so that's OK " made by Meteorwayne &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tell me that is not similar to an adhominem, in the sense that it is sarcastic and degrades my intelligence, and as such I have contacted others....&nbsp; I feel it was in my place to respond the way I did...&nbsp;&nbsp;Also you say if I continue, well have I contnued if only in the sense I am actively trying to defend myself and I am no longer making retaliatations, so it comes down to a situation where the administration, or some involved, are depressing an issue.&nbsp; This, I think, is not proper conduct of a distinguished forum. &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />Well, truthfully, it was rather incoherent. Sorry if you find that offensive. Perhaps if you made your posts more coherent we could have some useful discussions. That would benefit us all. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

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#### Astronoid

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<p>I replied later I had schizoprhenia, this was not an attempt at gaining sympathy... I posted that so people would see why it is I am "incoherrant"...&nbsp; schizophrenia has one symptom which shines through and that is fragmented thoughts, it is hard to communicate with this disease....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In any case it is hard to talk vocally to people, let alone communicate though the internet. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/orgling/smileycollabpngzz6-1.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket" /> </div>

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#### MeteorWayne

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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I replied later I had schizoprhenia, this was not an attempt at gaining sympathy... I posted that so people would see why it is I am "incoherrant"...&nbsp; schizophrenia has one symptom which shines through and that is fragmented thoughts, it is hard to communicate with this disease....&nbsp;In any case it is hard to talk vocally to people, let alone communicate though the internet. &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by Astronoid</DIV><br /><br />The problem is, a forum is a media where you must be able to communicate somewhat clearly for it to have any value to the community. I don't know of a solution... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

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