Expansion isn't happening with time, Time is happening due to Expansion -True or False?

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It is widely realised nowadays that the Age of the Universe as a radius translates to our space (as the circumference of a circle) to match the Hubble Constant. That is each second increase in radius (light second) increases space by a close approximation to the measured Hubble Constant. I have always thought of increases in time as causing space expansion but what if it is the other way around; space expansion causes time.
If this were the case, we no longer look for a cause of time (which seems difficult) but for a cause of space expansion (which seems easier). For example, Black Holes may cause white Holes, etc.

What do you think/suggest?
 
Which came first , the chicken or the egg ? Distance and time are two seemingly separate, intangible, phenomena. They are aso both separations and the two components of motion. However, because time seems to be progression, and that progression is of distance, I have to back time as the driver of the expansion, rather than vice-versa. How these seemingly separate phenomena combined, to form the single phenomenon we call space-time, is currently, and probably always will be beyond comprehension, but it is certainly interesting to think about.

I believe distance and time are fundamental components of reality and as they are intangibles, are exempt from the rules of cause and effect which apply to all things physical.
 
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Just asking.

If there were to be a reversal to contraction, would time reverse (whatever that means)?
What would cause what, in this case?

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Time is a positive concept and continues to progress normally. The process is ongoing, but in the opposite direction. This raises an interesting question: What mechanism would allow the universe to emulate a black hole without actually becoming one?

It's worth noting that time operating under contraction occurs in a black hole, so I'm surprised you asked this question.
 
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Which came first , the chicken or the egg ? Distance and time are two seemingly separate, intangible, phenomena. They are aso both separations and the two components of motion. However, because time seems to be progression, and that progression is of distance, I have to back time as the driver of the expansion, rather than vice-versa. How these seemingly separate phenomena combined, to form the single phenomenon we call space-time, is currently, and probably always will be beyond comprehension, but it is certainly interesting to think about.

I believe distance and time are fundamental components of reality and as they are intangibles, are exempt from the rules of cause and effect which apply to all things physical.
It makes sense to consider time and distance as being the same thing, but interpreted differently (say by a 3d person compared to a 4d person).
Consider: In 4 spatial dimensions, the expansion of 3 dimensions of distance across a distance of the fourth dimension. Then the fourth dimension is considered to be time. Reality can perm any 3 from 4, and the fourth to be time.

The really interesting question is "Can each possible combination exist in the same hypersphere?" But this is rather exotic even for me, especially as it has implications for certain phenomena that we might hope didn't exist.

I haven't debated this with an AI as I thought it might reduce credibility as being too far out. You could maybe (?)

Anyway to answer your question, they came together.
 

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Time is a positive concept and continues to progress normally. The process is ongoing, but in the opposite direction. This raises an interesting question: What mechanism would allow the universe to emulate a black hole without actually becoming one?

It's worth noting that time operating under contraction occurs in a black hole, so I'm surprised you asked this question.

Really, Gibsense:

It's worth noting that time operating under contraction occurs in a black hole, so I'm surprised you asked this question.

😳🫢

Since the expansion in question was Expansion of the Universe, then contract referred to contraction of same, and not only to some theoretical final stage. My question #3 clearly referred to a theoretical contraction of the "Universe", all highly theoretical, and whether this, in accordance with the theoretical context of the thread, might be related to time.

Thus, I am surprised at your post #5:

It's worth noting that time operating under contraction occurs in a black hole, so I'm surprised you asked this question.

😙😰🤥

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Time is a positive concept and continues to progress normally. The process is ongoing, but in the opposite direction.

Since you are knowledgeable on the question of time, perhaps you might please inform us as to whether or not time travels backwards (as in the opposite direction), and what this means, long before there is any likelihood of a final black hole. I hope this question does not cause you further surprise.

Cat :) :) :)
 
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