I hope this is the right spot to post this

[Founding_Father]

<p>Hi all I just jopined and this is a great website.&nbsp; I love talking about space with my friends so here goes.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have noticed that the LHC is coming on line soon and I was wondering if y'all think the Higgs field wil be detected?&nbsp; I don't think it will myself.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Also, if the theory is accurately framed, wouldn't or couldn't the higgs field also account for what we call gravity?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

 

[dragon04]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi all I just jopined and this is a great website.&nbsp; I love talking about space with my friends so here goes.&nbsp;I have noticed that the LHC is coming on line soon and I was wondering if y'all think the Higgs field wil be detected?&nbsp; I don't think it will myself.&nbsp;Also, if the theory is accurately framed, wouldn't or couldn't the higgs field also account for what we call gravity?&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /> Posted by Founding_Father</DIV></p><p>Really, I think this belongs down on the Physics Forum </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[UFmbutler]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Really, I think this belongs down on the Physics Forum <br /> Posted by dragon04</DIV></p><p>It has also been discussed in about 500 threads in that forum&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[SpeedFreek]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi all I just jopined and this is a great website.&nbsp; I love talking about space with my friends so here goes.&nbsp;I have noticed that the LHC is coming on line soon and I was wondering if y'all think the Higgs field wil be detected?&nbsp; I don't think it will myself.&nbsp;Also, if the theory is accurately framed, wouldn't or couldn't the higgs field also account for what we call gravity?&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /> Posted by Founding_Father</DIV></p><p>Hi Founding_Father, welcome to the Forum! <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></p><p>I think the idea is that the higgs field might be the mechanism that imbues matter with <strong>mass</strong>, rather than gravity. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi all I just jopined and this is a great website.&nbsp; I love talking about space with my friends so here goes.&nbsp;I have noticed that the LHC is coming on line soon and I was wondering if y'all think the Higgs field wil be detected?&nbsp; I don't think it will myself.&nbsp;Also, if the theory is accurately framed, wouldn't or couldn't the higgs field also account for what we call gravity?&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /> Posted by Founding_Father</DIV></p><p>What makes you think they won't find it?&nbsp; Personally, I think if they don't hurry up, the Tevatron at Fermilab might just beat them to it.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[Founding_Father]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi Founding_Father, welcome to the Forum! I think the idea is that the higgs field might be the mechanism that imbues matter with mass, rather than gravity. <br />Posted by SpeedFreek</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yes I know this, but I envision (with no frame of reference for that matter) that very early on the higgs boson particle responsible for the creation of the field might also be similar to that of gravity in some weird intuitive way.&nbsp; So they may not be the same, but the mechanism might be?&nbsp; I haven't seen any reason to think that gravity was around prior to the big bang, or even responsible for it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p>

 

[Founding_Father]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>What makes you think they won't find it?&nbsp; Personally, I think if they don't hurry up, the Tevatron at Fermilab might just beat them to it.&nbsp; <br />Posted by derekmcd</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thank you for your response derekmcd.&nbsp; I suppose that's true, but I doubt it has enough energy to produce the speeds?&nbsp; I'm not an expert in particle physics by any stretch it is more of a hobby of mine.&nbsp; I doubt they will find it because I don't think that the field is there.&nbsp; I think that it must be something else that gives weight to matter.&nbsp; Now I have no idea why I think that, but that's not very fun when you sit in bed contemplating the universe. LOL</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p>