Is the Sun ''45 degrees'' South of the Earth ?

[Thermoman]

If the Earth were 100cm in Latitude and I placed a 200cm ruler beginning at the North Pole across to the Equator , would I find the Sun at the end of the ruler ?

 

[COLGeek]

No.

Earth's orbit - Wikipedia

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[Thermoman]

No.

Earth's orbit - Wikipedia

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I wished I could upload a picture model.

Yes I viewed your link in the other thread so started this thread to refrain from Sun talk in that thread .

Ok, relativity and observation .

If the Sun orbits the equator then a person in Australia at Midday see's the Sun towards the North , they are effectively looking up towards the equator .If this event doesn't happen then what you have provided is incorrect .

Any Australians on here answer this question ?

 

[COLGeek]

Just don't forget planetary tilt.

Axial tilt - Wikipedia

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You can post images. Upload to a site like imgur.com and then post a link to the image here.

 

[Thermoman]

Just don't forget planetary tilt.

Axial tilt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You can post images. Upload to a site like imgur.com and then post a link to the image here.

Yes I am aware of planetary tilt although I'd describe that more of a curved path .

My Astonomy explains an ascent and descent curvature relative to the Sun .


I am located in England and in the morning my relative path is a curved ascent , I reach middayish where I am then postioned at the top of the curve before I then start my curved descent into shadow .

I will look at images as it is much easier to ask a question with an image !

 

[Thermoman]

Just don't forget planetary tilt.

Axial tilt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You can post images. Upload to a site like imgur.com and then post a link to the image here.

I have Just done some research and viewed some Melbourne beaches in the sunshine . I observed peoples and items shadows were notherly in direction which implies the Sunshine was from South as I described , the Sun being below the Earth .

Unless Australia is upside down on google maps ?

 

[COLGeek]

I don't know what to tell you that you'll accept. The Sun is certainly not "under" the Earth.

As provided by multiple links, the relative position of the two bodies changes throughout an orbital cycle.

So, standing on the north or pole, the view will be different throughout the year. Same for all points in between.

 

[Thermoman]

I don't know what to tell you that you'll accept. The Sun is certainly not "under" the Earth.

As provided by multiple links, the relative position of the two bodies changes throughout an orbital cycle.

So, standing on the north or pole, the view will be different throughout the year. Same for all points in between.

I don't think you understand my query . If the Sun was aligned to the equator horizontal , people north of the equator would look south , people on the equator would look up and people in Australia would look north .

This is the relativity of observation .

However , my research is showing this doesn't happen ,Australians ,notherners and equators , all view the Sun South which would mean it was below the Earth .

From an angle below the Earth the North pole could receive 24 hrs of daylight because the North pole has no ascent of descent path as such so it remains out of shadow.

Try this experiment , shine a flash light/torch at an angle from below a ball but an angle so the top of the ball catches the light , then spin the ball , notice the ''face'' of the ball will have shadow areas but the top has light always .

I'e England changes position but the North pole doesn't !

 

[Thermoman]

I don't know what to tell you that you'll accept. The Sun is certainly not "under" the Earth.

As provided by multiple links, the relative position of the two bodies changes throughout an orbital cycle.

So, standing on the north or pole, the view will be different throughout the year. Same for all points in between.

I estimate the suns position ~225 degrees off the equator , the equator still being the nearest point of EMR contact !

 

[COLGeek]

Are you factoring in the distance between the two bodies? Angular difference, at any given time, at that distance is rather small.

 

[Thermoman]

Are you factoring in the distance between the two bodies? Angular difference, at any given time, at that distance is rather small.

The distance between bodies is far enough so that people can see the Sun from anywhere on Earth . I would be lying if I said I knew this distance or could measure it !

I can only state my query based on my existing observations and research .

I may even consider the Northern lights is gravitational lensing where light is curving around towards the North Pole ! A ~225 degrees angular position of the Sun to the equator could have this affect on the North field .
Solar winds (particles) would just pass through the EMF and burn up in re-entry , not make spectral frequencies .

P.s I have angled cameras in photography to create beams of coloured light so Northern Flare sounds right to me !

 

[COLGeek]

Your 45/225 degree angle assumption doesn't align with the materials provided earlier.

What makes you think you are correct over everything presented?

Good luck on this. I'm out.

 

[Thermoman]

Your 45/225 degree angle assumption doesn't align with the materials provided earlier.

What makes you think you are correct over everything presented?

Good luck on this. I'm out.

Well I don't know I am correct without confirmation of some of my queries/questions . I may be correct based on what I've observed but until confirmed by others , my theory isn't fact . The Australia question prove me correct or incorrect .

Thanks for your time on this , appreciated!