ramparts":1ijg5f94 said:Michael, bear in mind (I think you were saying something along these lines) that our willingness to engage amicably with NBH scales downward with each standoffish comment, each insinuation that there's a conspiracy of astrophysicists, and each time he refuses to engage in the same civil dialogue with which we try to engage him. Personally, I began this thread from a bit of a lower starting point because I'd already tried this with NBH a couple of months ago in another thread. After all the insults, insinuations, and three-post manifestos, when it came down to it, I asked him one question, several times, which was crucial to his argument, and he disappeared from the thread before he responded to it. So to be honest, I'm only expecting so much of a civil or productive dialogue.
I do hear you ramparts. I for one very much appreciate your attempt to be specific about your criticisms, and your focus on the science aspects of the debate. If you have the link to your previous discussion I'd be more than happy to read through that link as I get time. Things are finally calming down a bit at work so I should have some additional reading time on my hands.
I have had a lot of personal experience at presenting 'non standard' ideas to astronomers. I know what it feels like to be on his side of the aisle and I have some empathy for his position. I am personally skeptical of the "infinite density" concept related to 'black holes', more from the perspective of nuclear chemistry (Pauli exclusion principle) rather than a mathematical objection. Until reading his work, I'd not come across a mathematical objection to the idea that seemed to hold water and survived even my own limited skeptical review of the material. This authors presentations have been quite different in that respect. I must say his arguments "seem" (from my limited perspective) to be correct, at least I didn't see an obvious error. I for one would very much like to see you two move forward in the conversation if possible so that I can get a better understanding of where your differences lie. I'm learning a lot just by reading along. I appreciate your efforts and his.