Mars Express Images - Revisited

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I am quite familiar&nbsp;with the&nbsp;scattering law....It is still blue light being refelected....If you want to use the word scatter...fine Posted by ks15</DIV></p><p>I think using the appropriate term to describe what is occuring is important, right?&nbsp; After all, the reason the atmosphere and ocean can be seen as "blue" is different than the reason a leaf might be green.&nbsp; So, it doesn't do us any good to confuse them with why a leaf is green or red paint is red. </p><p>Just a general note: It's not a point I'm making just to criticize you.&nbsp; I'm also not criticizing you as a person or any such thing.&nbsp; I think it's important to note the difference between a personal criticism and a disagreement concerning opinion.&nbsp; It's your opinion and the methods you use to foster it that I criticize.&nbsp; You may be a great person but it's your opion and the very halfhazard means you use to justify it that I find extreme fault with. You continue to persist in your opinion and justify it using only evidence that you can make fit while ignoring any conflicting evidence and new data.&nbsp; That's just plain "not right" any way you slice it. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[abq_farside]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Why don't you put up a really nice, detailed image of "The Face" on your site which was taken with much more advanced equipment?&nbsp; I cropped one out of a huge jpeg2000 image just for this thread and posted a page or so ago"...The 9kx9k pixel, 48meg cropped image of the Face is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?y2jdmx1ecn9 ..."There you go.&nbsp; Put that on your website.Or, would a detailed image of the formation of rock ruin the entire conspiracy theory you're wallowing in?&nbsp; Would you then have lost a valuable and somewhat self-defining portion of your life if you simply acknowledged you were wrong? &nbsp; <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />Love the detail in that image - thanks for posting it.</p><p>I am not sure what is meant when a claim was made that it was FALSE?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em><font size="1" color="#000080">Don't let who you are keep you from becoming who you want to be!</font></em></p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Love the detail in that image - thanks for posting it Posted by abq_farside</DIV></p><p>You're very welcome.</p>It took forever to upload that thing.&nbsp; But, at least there's a very hi-res pic cropped down to a suitable size for those who are interested in looking at one. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[ks15]

<p>I don't do opinions.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>There are problems with the MRO version of the Face regardless of image size.&nbsp;There is&nbsp;a huge&nbsp;difference between the HRSC and the MRO images of Cydonia. This difference has nothing to do with spatial resolution.&nbsp;Yes, They do conflict with eachother....They should not.......</p><p>Both the MRO/HiRise and the HRSC are quite fine instruments.......I have compare other images from both of these cameras....These images&nbsp;are what I expected.....</p><p>The Cydonia images are a different story.</p><p>I have experimented with&nbsp;the individual RGB channels&nbsp;of the&nbsp;Mars Express images.....The colors&nbsp;do not change much.</p><p>I am quite familiar with filters and all its aspects......Again, The colors do not change much....</p><p>No more experiments....Color is still color....I am not going to argue what color is Blue...Or&nbsp;the processes of its creation.</p><p>So, Again.....This image</p><p>http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Image_Processing/CYD272c.jpg</p><p>Should not differ from this image (It will be&nbsp;shown upside down....The official NASA/MRO/HiRise way):</p><p>http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/PSP_003234_2210_RGB.jpg</p><p>Again, This difference has nothing to do with&nbsp;camera types or resolution factors....I am talking about both minor and major DETAILS of the "Face".....I should see the same image regardless of spatial ground resolution...Wether it be 3ft or 45ft....Especially when talking about an object thousands of feet long....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

 

[abq_farside]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>....This imagehttp://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Image_Processing/CYD272c.jpg<br />Should not differ from this image (It will be&nbsp;shown upside down....The official NASA/MRO/HiRise way):http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/PSP_003234_2210_RGB.jpgAgain, <br />This difference has nothing to do with&nbsp;camera types or resolution factors....I am talking about both minor and major DETAILS of the "Face".....I should see the same image regardless of spatial ground resolution...Wether it be 3ft or 45ft....Especially when talking about an object thousands of feet long....&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by ks15</DIV></p><p>Don't you think that if one camera can resolve to 3' and another to 45' that the images may look slightly different?&nbsp; They can't help but not look different.</p><p>Resolution, time of day, angle, shadows, etc. all will impact the images and what you see.&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em><font size="1" color="#000080">Don't let who you are keep you from becoming who you want to be!</font></em></p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I don't do opinions.&nbsp; ..Posted by ks15</DIV></p><p>Well, then...</p><p>If you are maintaining all of this concerning Cydonia is not "your opinion" but is "fact" then, of course, this is a different animal altogether.</p><p>It's one thing to express an opinion and be wrong.&nbsp; It's quite another to willfully assert an opinion as "fact" and be wrong.</p><p>In the first, nothing is lost except, perhaps, some personal pride or some such.&nbsp; Nobody should think less of someone who is, after all, only offering an opinion.&nbsp; It doesn't really reflect that much on them, personally.&nbsp; But, that isn't equally valid with someone who insists their opinion is "fact." </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>..I am talking about both minor and major DETAILS of the "Face".....I should see the same image regardless of spatial ground resolution...Wether it be 3ft or 45ft....Especially when talking about an object thousands of feet long....&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /> Posted by ks15</DIV></p><p>Mysteries (to some) explained. </p><p>http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/msss/camera/images/4_6_face_release/index.html </p><p>A comparison image (from the above link) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9259/comparean3.gif </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[lildreamer]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I don't do opinions.&nbsp;&nbsp;There are problems with the MRO version of the Face regardless of image size.&nbsp;There ...................down....The official NASA/MRO/HiRise way):http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Cydonia_Images/PSP_003234_2210_RGB.jpgAgain, This difference has nothing to do with&nbsp;camera types or resolution factors....I am talking about both minor and major DETAILS of the "Face".....I should see the same image regardless of spatial ground resolution...Wether it be 3ft or 45ft....Especially when talking about an object thousands of feet long....&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by ks15</DIV></p><p>cut for berevity sake...</p><p>Hi KS15</p><p>what are the major and minor differences you are reporting that&nbsp;support your argument , can you point them out please....</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/5/15/45c33596-f180-45cb-8fb2-01b1b63e0c21.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Forums/#<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>