Milky Way's halo....

[docm]

<div class="smallfont"><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/2/9492649e-b7ee-4e06-92e0-8854d9d10824.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />&nbsp;</div><div class="smallfont">&nbsp;</div><div class="smallfont">Link....<br /> </div><p>Large image link....(jpg)</p><p><strong>Milky Way's halo</strong></p><div class="smallfont"> </div> <hr style="color:#ffffff" /> http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~dhw/SDSS08/mwhalo.jpg<br /> <div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div> The halo of stars that envelops the outer Milky Way galaxy is like a "jumble of pasta" said one researcher, describing criss-crossed patterns of stellar streams revealed in new data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS). These stars appear to have been ripped away from the dwarf galaxies that are companions to our own galaxy, creating messy, spaghetti-like streams of stars in the outer edge of the Milky Way. The SEGUE (Sloan Extension for Galactic Understanding and Exploration) of the Sloan Survey is mapping the structure and stellar makeup of the Milky Way Galaxy and has found numerous new small streams of stars mixed and tangled among larger streams that had been mapped out over the last decade. It appears the Milky Way's thievery is creating quite a mess.<br /> <br /> While the center of galaxy is quite orderly, the outer Milky Way is a cluttered mess. Kathryn Johnston from Columbia University explained how dwarf galaxies that pass close to the Milky Way can be stretched by gravitational tides into spaghetti-like strands, which wind around the Galaxy as stars trace out the same orbital paths at different rates.<br /> <br /> "In the center of the Galaxy, these stellar strands crowd together and you just see a smooth mix of stars," said Johnston. "But as you look further away you can start to pick out individual strands, as well as features more akin to pasta shells that come from dwarfs that were on more elongated orbits." Johnston described the new smaller strands recently detected as "angel hair" that came from smaller dwarf or ones that were destroyed longer ago.<br /> <br /> Heidi Newberg of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and her thesis student Nathan Cole have been trying to follow some of the larger strands as they weave across the sky. "It's a big challenge to piece things together," said Cole, "because the stream from one dwarf galaxy can wrap around the Galaxy and pass through streams of stars ripped from other dwarf galaxies."<br /> <br /> Toward the constellation Virgo, where SDSS images revealed an excess of stars covering a huge area of sky, there are at least two superposed structures, and possibly three or more. The SEGUE velocity measurements can separate systems that overlap in sky maps, Newberg explained. "Part of what we see toward Virgo is a tidal arm of the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy, whose main body lies on the opposite side of the Milky Way, but we don't know the origin of the other structures. There really aren't enough pasta varieties to describe all the structures we find."<br /> <br /> "The SDSS has taught us a huge amount about the Milky Way and its neighbors," said Johnston. "But we're still just beginning to map the Galaxy in a comprehensive way, and there's a trove of discoveries out there for the next generation of surveys, including the two new Milky Way surveys that will be carried out in SDSS-III," the next set of surveys slated for Sloan. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Posted by docm</DIV><br /><br />MMMM, Pasta...{drool} <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[Boris_Badenov]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>MMMM, Pasta...{drool} <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p><font size="2">Want&nbsp;a good recipe for sauce to go with that Celestial Pasta?</font> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#993300"><span class="body"><font size="2" color="#3366ff"><div align="center">. </div><div align="center">Never roll in the mud with a pig. You'll both get dirty & the pig likes it.</div></font></span></font> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Want&nbsp;a good recipe for sauce to go with that Celestial Pasta? <br />Posted by boris1961</DIV><br /><br />Actually, the tomatos in the Northwest Jersey Vegetable Correctional Facility are finally ripe enough to begin making sauce. But first, I'm gonna eat one!!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Want&nbsp;a good recipe for sauce to go with that Celestial Pasta? <br />Posted by boris1961</DIV><br /><br />BTW, I accept all recipes from you!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[Limo_God]

[yQUOTE] &nbsp;&nbsp;Link.... Large image link....(jpg)Milky Way's halo Quote: The halo of stars that envelops the outer Milky Way galaxy is like a "jumble of pasta" said one researcher, describing criss-crossed patterns of stellar streams revealed in new data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS). These stars appear to have been ripped away from the dwarf galaxies that are companions to our own galaxy, creating messy, spaghetti-like streams of stars in the outer edge of the Milky Way. The SEGUE (Sloan Extension for Galactic Understanding and Exploration) of the Sloan Survey is mapping the structure and stellar makeup of the Milky Way Galaxy and has found numerous new small streams of stars mixed and tangled among larger streams that had been mapped out over the last decade. It appears the Milky Way's thievery is creating quite a mess. While the center of galaxy is quite orderly, the outer Milky Way is a cluttered mess. Kathryn Johnston from Columbia University explained how dwarf galaxies that pass close to the Milky Way can be stretched by gravitational tides into spaghetti-like strands, which wind around the Galaxy as stars trace out the same orbital paths at different rates. "In the center of the Galaxy, these stellar strands crowd together and you just see a smooth mix of stars," said Johnston. "But as you look further away you can start to pick out individual strands, as well as features more akin to pasta shells that come from dwarfs that were on more elongated orbits." Johnston described the new smaller strands recently detected as "angel hair" that came from smaller dwarf or ones that were destroyed longer ago. Heidi Newberg of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and her thesis student Nathan Cole have been trying to follow some of the larger strands as they weave across the sky. "It's a big challenge to piece things together," said Cole, "because the stream from one dwarf galaxy can wrap around the Galaxy and pass through streams of stars ripped from other dwarf galaxies." Toward the constellation Virgo, where SDSS images revealed an excess of stars covering a huge area of sky, there are at least two superposed structures, and possibly three or more. The SEGUE velocity measurements can separate systems that overlap in sky maps, Newberg explained. "Part of what we see toward Virgo is a tidal arm of the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy, whose main body lies on the opposite side of the Milky Way, but we don't know the origin of the other structures. There really aren't enough pasta varieties to describe all the structures we find." "The SDSS has taught us a huge amount about the Milky Way and its neighbors," said Johnston. "But we're still just beginning to map the Galaxy in a comprehensive way, and there's a trove of discoveries out there for the next generation of surveys, including the two new Milky Way surveys that will be carried out in SDSS-III," the next set of surveys slated for Sloan. <br />Posted by docm[/QUOTE]<br /><br />Ah, finally!! Indisputable evidence of His Noodly Appendage!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>Sermo datur cuntis; animi sapientia paucis</strong></p><p><em>Speech is given to many; intelligence to few</em></p> </div>

 

[DrRocket]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Actually, the tomatos in the Northwest Jersey Vegetable Correctional Facility are finally ripe enough to begin making sauce. But first, I'm gonna eat one!!!! <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Are you in prison now ?&nbsp; What did you do, mis-identify and asteroid ?</p><p>And what is a a Vegetable Correctional Facility ?&nbsp; Sounds like a bunch of rotten tomatoes all locked up together.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Are you in prison now ?&nbsp; What did you do, mis-identify and asteroid ?And what is a a Vegetable Correctional Facility ?&nbsp; Sounds like a bunch of rotten tomatoes all locked up together. <br />Posted by DrRocket</DIV><br /><br />My vegetable garden is surrounded by a 10 foot high fence, so that is my affectionate name for it. I haven't had to add razor wire to the top to keep the deer out, but that's only a few years away. When we moved in 17 years ago, we only needed a 3 foot fence.<br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/14/f97d0cd5-029f-48a8-ae12-f01663db340a.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[DrRocket]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>My vegetable garden is surrounded by a 10 foot high fence, so that is my affectionate name for it. I haven't had to add razor wire to the top to keep the deer out, but that's only a few years away. When we moved in 17 years ago, we only needed a 3 foot fence. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Cool.&nbsp; We just let the deer eat the shrubs.&nbsp; It is not a big problem and they don't do too much damage.&nbsp; So far the lions have not followed them into the subdivision.&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[michaelmozina]

Hannes Alfven described galaxies (all rotating bodies) as "unipoler inductors" and suggested that current carrying thread ran through interstellar space.&nbsp; These threaded pasta looking structures would also be consistent with his plasma cosmology theories. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds. - Kristian Birkeland </div>

 

[UFmbutler]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hannes Alfven described galaxies (all rotating bodies) as "unipoler inductors" and suggested that current carrying thread ran through interstellar space.&nbsp; These threaded pasta looking structures would also be consistent with his plasma cosmology theories. <br /> Posted by michaelmozina</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;Uhh...just because these structures "look" like threads doesn't mean they are.&nbsp; If you can show me that these threads are carrying current(last I checked gas and stars, aka the material in the galactic halo, don't form some sort of intergalactic "wire"), then OK, maybe you have a point.&nbsp; It seems to me this is one of those "well, the picture looks like this so my idea must be correct" thing you tend to do, namely with your solar images.&nbsp; But that's a whole other topic...the bottom line is the image is not consistent with his plasma cosmology theories as you've interpreted them because there is no reason to believe they are carrying current.</p><p>&nbsp;EDIT: Disclaimer after reading DrRocket's post and realizing what I may have done: Please don't address this post in this thread michael.&nbsp; As I said, this is an argument for another thread, but you can't make such wild assertions in threads like this without being challenged.&nbsp; This is not an EU thread, so don't turn it into one.&nbsp; I only said what I did because I was so bewildered as to how you can make such an off-the-wall statement so nonchalantly and offer absolutely no supporting evidence. &nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[DrRocket]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Uhh...just because these structures "look" like threads doesn't mean they are.&nbsp; If you can show me that these threads are carrying current(last I checked gas and stars, aka the material in the galactic halo, don't form some sort of intergalactic "wire"), then OK, maybe you have a point.&nbsp; It seems to me this is one of those "well, the picture looks like this so my idea must be correct" thing you tend to do, namely with your solar images.&nbsp; But that's a whole other topic...the bottom line is the image is not consistent with his plasma cosmology theories as you've interpreted them because there is no reason to believe they are carrying current. <br />Posted by UFmbutler</DIV></p><p>Uh-oh.&nbsp; Here we go again.&nbsp; You are about to see the full EU fairy tale. This will provide the necessary distraction for Michael to wiggle off the hook in the other thread to produce a paper to back up his non-theory of the relationship between circuit theory and magnetic reconnection.&nbsp; He was looking for an excuse to quietly abandon that project and here it is. <br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Uh-oh.&nbsp; Here we go again.&nbsp; You are about to see the full EU fairy tale. This will provide the necessary distraction for Michael to wiggle off the hook in the other thread to produce a paper to back up his non-theory of the relationship between circuit theory and magnetic reconnection.&nbsp; He was looking for an excuse to quietly abandon that project and here it is. <br /> Posted by DrRocket</DIV></p><p>I actually thought the "LHC implications" thread was going to digress into the EU realm and end up 30 pages of nothing.&nbsp; Hasn't happened yet, but I'm sure it could flare up at any moment.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>