If private enterprise/industry breaks the cost barrier to LEO, this will go a long way towards getting to both the moon and mars regardless if NASA does it, P.E. does it or both. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>