If you pick any complex species evolved enough for consciousness, then how did that species arise from the nothing before it? Is is that you dont need an actual species with consciousness, you just need the quantum probability of one to create itself and its ancestors? if thats the case then time started at the collapse not before, anything before is negative time that never really existed until the wave collapsed and propagated the probabilities backwards. That means the past beyond the universe horizon hasnt happened yet, but it will some time in the past. im so confused. Sorry if some of this was already covered. i didnt read all 100+ replies.