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Our concept of electrons and their use in theories of physics is outdated, inaccurate and inadequate to explain in terms of our present knowledge and technology. It needs to be revamped. Even the most modern interpretation of quantum mechanics namely the hard interpretation of quantum mechanics decided on at the 5th Solvay Conference held in 1927 is almost a hundred years old today. Our whole concept of the electron is in need of a sea change. I have therefore written a paper entitled : Redefining Electrons : A modern Theory of Aether in which a mathematical basis is put forward for this new theory. I would appreciate any comments.
 
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I found your real name, and also looked at your paper.
YES - You are close to understanding the tight connection between photon and electron, and thereby only partly the electromagnetic interaction.

In my soon to be published paper I describe both photon (of two types) and electrons (of two spins) as composite particles and evolve from same process.
More when the paper is published.
Thanks.
Ravi
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Has this document been peer reviewed in any way (other than sharing with this community)?

Will give it a read soon.
COLGeek, flattered at your interest and thanks. However, there are two points I would like to emphasise. The first point is with regard to my criticism of quantum mechanics where I mention that according to quantum mechanics light as it travels from point A to point B does not exist as something real but travels as an abstract wave-function. There might be a tendency to dismiss this statement as being false or erroneous. However, according to the hard interpretation of quantum mechanics as decided at the 5th Solvay Conference held in 1927, a decision was made that light travelling from A to B did not exist as something real but as an abstract wave-function: Look at this video from 12.18 on. Also see Max Born’s quote: We have two possibilities. Either we use waves in space of more than three dimensions,..or we remain in three dimensional space, but give up the simple picture of the wave amplitude as an ordinary physical magnitude , and replace it with a purely mathematical concept into which we cannot enter.? Yet one has to wonder how something that can be ethically unacceptable in the ′real′ world can be perfectly justifiable in the abstract ′mathematical′ world. . " ] Max Born.

The second point I would like to raise is that we live in an atmosphere of air, of which we are hardly aware, yet without that air we could not exist. Apart from air, there is a second ‘substance’ that surrounds us of which we are hardly aware, emanating from the refrigerator, the lights in our houses, the power cables, the TV, the washing machine, the air-conditioning system, computers, laptops and mobile phones. I refer of course to electromagnetic radiation. It is strange that while we are perfectly willing to accept the existence of this electromagnetic radiation and the signs that accompany it in our homes, we are unable to admit that the same type of phenomena must also accompany electromagnetic radiation travelling in space and through the Universe. The explanation of fields that permeate the entire Universe, one for each type of phenomena is a bit clumsy. I have put forward the proposition for a single type of classical field. Where every point in space is occupied by a particle (virtual photon or electric dipole). This single medium accounts for both electricity and magnetism and also gravity as envisioned by Lorentz and Poincare, but that is another subject altogether. Is it so difficult to envision a Universe occupied by a medium? If commons sense prevails, it is surely a preferable solution than to imagine the existence of a dozen or more fields, one for gravity, one for electricity, one for magnetism etc.,
 

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Jzz
I found your real name, and also looked at your paper.
YES - You are close to understanding the tight connection between photon and electron, and thereby only partly the electromagnetic interaction.

In my soon to be published paper I describe both photon (of two types) and electrons (of two spins) as composite particles and evolve from same process.
More when the paper is published.
Thanks.
I greatly appreciated your comments Dr Sharma, my mentor is Dr M R Srinivas, who is a very distinguished scientist, and former Chairman of the Bhaba Atomic Research Centre and a close associate of both Nobel laureate Dr. Homi Bhaba and Dr Vikram Sarabhai, founder of ISRO. My theory explains not only electric and magnetic effects but also accounts for gravity. I think the present ontology of photon-electron interaction within the atom is highly stilted, i.e., electron absorbs photon is raised to a higher level orbital, then drops down and emits a photon is too stilted apart from the fact that one wave that is a hundred million times larger than the electron (i.e., the incoming photon) is reflecting of another wave the electron cloud, leaves no explanation. Where are the forces of recoil? How does such a massive incoming wave interact solely with the electron? In other words present theories leave a lot to be desired. The theory outlined in brief in my paper "Redefining electrons: A Modern Theory of the Aether" offers an alternate solution to these aberrations.
 
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An electron(and a proton) has two EM rotations. And they have the same structure. One rotation is internal and one rotation is external. The external field rotation is always perpendicular to the outside world. This external rotation is always the slower rotation. It has a set of relative c speeds.

The internal EM field rotation is much different. It rotates much faster than the external field, it is just a bit slower than c. This rotation modulates the slower rotation with a high frequency wobble. These are all DC fields. One direction fields.

And with this high speed internal rotation.....the M field lies down beside the E field. Along side of it.

Handedness. Fundamental handedness is the alignment of the M to the E. Normally the M is perpendicular to the E.

If we shine a positive E field north, the M's north will be on the east side of the field and the M's south will be on the west side.

If we shine a negative E field north, the M poles switch. This is fundamental handedness. And sets the way atoms and molecules fit together. Handedness provides one way fit for this universe.

Inside with the very fast EM internal field.......the M field will lie down next to the E field.

With a right handed charge(positive E field) the M field will lay down parallel to the E field. AND the M and the E fields are in parallel and gong in the same direction.

This gives the positive charge......inertia. A high speed, high charge rate.

In the left handed internal field, the M field lies down in the opposite direction. The E and the M are counter rotating........giving the charge an anti-inertia property. A slow speed, slow charge rate. Anti parallel rotation.

The proton stays very small, very hard and very high RPM. The electron is very large, very soft and a slow RPM.

The mass you think you are measuring with an electron, is only a small portion of one of those counter rotations. You can not measure both rotations at the same time........and you think it has mass.

If you stand beside a particle, every rotation is the movement(flow) of one e. The electron will have about 18 amps. The proton will have about 30,000 amps.

Big difference. The electron occupies the slow spectrum and the proton occupies the fast spectrum.Both particles have the same structure and the same amount of charge material. BUT handedness gives them asymmetric properties.

Not only does this structure explain the periodic table, it shows the structure and forces that hold a nucleus together.

Both structures can be charged/discharged to the same size. If you accelerate an electron backwards, it will charge up like a proton. If you accelerate a proton backwards it will discharge like an electron.

Anti-matter. The L and the R charges can only touch when they are the same size. Otherwise, one flies thru the center of the other. But if same size and touch.......they will unwrap each other and dissolve into EM propagation.

That was matter. Now if I could only get you to listen about light, you would have no need for space-time or expanding space......to explain your star light measurements.

This structure not only explains inertia and the periodic table.......but the true dynamic of light.

Duty cycle light. Discreet light.
 
I greatly appreciated your comments Dr Sharma, my mentor is Dr M R Srinivas, who is a very distinguished scientist, and former Chairman of the Bhaba Atomic Research Centre and a close associate of both Nobel laureate Dr. Homi Bhaba and Dr Vikram Sarabhai, founder of ISRO. My theory explains not only electric and magnetic effects but also accounts for gravity. I think the present ontology of photon-electron interaction within the atom is highly stilted, i.e., electron absorbs photon is raised to a higher level orbital, then drops down and emits a photon is too stilted apart from the fact that one wave that is a hundred million times larger than the electron (i.e., the incoming photon) is reflecting of another wave the electron cloud, leaves no explanation. Where are the forces of recoil? How does such a massive incoming wave interact solely with the electron? In other words present theories leave a lot to be desired. The theory outlined in brief in my paper "Redefining electrons: A Modern Theory of the Aether" offers an alternate solution to these aberrations.
Hi Jzz:

You mean Dr. M. R. Srinivasan who is 94 this year?
Great accomplishments and great practical engineering experience. On the off topic comment, still India is not optimally using its abundant thorium for power, China again is ahead here and in many science and engineering benefits, such as power generation, like France did when Bhabha was alive.

Coming back to nature of electron and electron photon scattering, my theory is that interactions include totality, namely scattering, absorption reemission, Raman and Mie and Rayleigh depending on quantum, statistical, topological and classical description.
As we are in BSM era and other group members here have commented (including Classical Motion), we can see multiple viewpoints.
Then there are morphs, as particles transform. My thesis 55 years ago and upcoming papers exemplify it.

Invite all to weigh and comment on the relative descriptions and which one is correct or suits the purpose?
Is one suitable description applicable to all particles of SM and BSM and or different descriptions are needed, for example Electroweak for neutrino, and strong for n, p etc.?
If there are different descriptions, does reality appear differently and how do we get total description, hoping - understanding!

Thanks.
Ravi
(Dr. Ravi Sharma, Ph.D. USA)
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Former Scientific Secretary ISRO HQ
Ontolog Board of Trustees
Particle and Space Physics
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You mean Dr. M. R. Srinivasan who is 94 this year?
Great accomplishments and great practical engineering experience. On the off topic comment, still India is not optimally using its abundant thorium for power, China again is ahead here and in many science and engineering benefits, such as power generation, like France did when Bhabha was alive.

Thank you, Dr Sharma. It is apparent that you are well acquainted with Dr M R Srinivasan, and in all probability are old acquaintances. I believe there is now talk of developing fast breeder reactors to take advantage of the thorium content.

Coming back to nature of electron and electron photon scattering, my theory is that interactions include totality, namely scattering, absorption reemission, Raman and Mie and Rayleigh depending on quantum, statistical, topological and classical description.
As we are in BSM era and other group members here have commented (including Classical Motion), we can see multiple viewpoints.
Then there are morphs, as particles transform. My thesis 55 years ago and upcoming papers exemplify it.
IMHO, Dr Sharma, your views of electron and electron photon scattering and Raman, Mie and Rayleigh scattering are just not fundamental enough to achieve the kind of breakthrough needed. It should be realised that both quantum mechanics and relativity are dated theories that have had their day. Hence my view of ‘Redefining the electron’ itself. For instance, the view has long been held that electrons are the fundamental charge carriers. Yet, in every other possible scenario, the electron mediates its energy through the absorption and emission of photons. Look at the theory as far as a current carrying wire is concerned. The theory is absolutely flawed. Consider that before a current is applied, electrons in the wire are moving at the rate of 10^6 m/s . How is it possible to believe that the moment a current is induced in the wire that the electrons start to move in the direction of the applied current but that their speed slows to 10^-3 m/s? What is the reason for this? How are electrons able to move at these amazing speeds without encountering any of the obstacles that, according to present theory, immediately become apparent when a current is applied to the wire? Why are these same obstacles not present when a current is not present? Surely, the explanation that free electrons in a wire where a current is absent, move in a zig-zag manner and thus avoid obstacles is quite obtuse? The mean free path of the electron is reduced to about 4 x 10^-8 m when a current is applied. This is a ridiculous estimate, although it might be factually true. The only possible explanation for such a situation, is that the explanation that is given for the change of speed of an electron when a current is applied, is due to some other factor, than those attributed. What could be the reason? According to my theory which is also known as Gestalt Aether Theory, the size (wave length) of the largest photon that an electron can emit is limited to a size of 1.25 x 10^-6 m, a frequency of 2.4 x 10^14 and an energy of 1.6 x 10^-19 J. Consider if such a limitation is not imposed on photon size, how would it be possible to explain radio-waves that can have a wavelength of a size of 5 x 10^6 m . These radio waves have exactly identical properties to photons, except that their energy is very low and their wave-lengths very large. Limiting the maximum wave-length that an electron can emit means that ALL radio-waves are ‘composite’ waves made up of photons that are linked together in parallel and have a shared energy.

Returning to the on topic, content. Namely the speed at which electrons in a wire carrying conductor move. GAT holds that the charge is carried not by electrons as has been believed for the past hundred years and more, but by the ‘largest’ photon that an electron can emit, that have been named ‘conduction’ photons. How is this possible? Traditionally, the idea that a photon can be the charge carrier has been rejected because the free electron that emits a photon has no means by which to recoil. Thereby, violating the conservation of energy and momentum laws. This is absolutely not allowed. UNLESS, using the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle as it applies to energy and time, the electron is able to absorb a photon of the same energy that it has emitted in a specified interval of time. This process is what results in the lines of force forming around a conductor. Therefore, when an electron emits a ‘conduction’ photon, the situation within the conductor is hectic, therefore before the electron can absorb the photon it has emitted it absorbs another ‘conduction’ photon and so on. Therefore, photons, which also need resolution in the form of an electron needing their specific energy, leave the conductor and circle back again entering the conductor to be absorbed by another electron and so on. This explains Flemings right hand rule, and also the corkscrew formation of the lines of force.

But why do electrons move so slowly and travel less than 4 x 10^-8 m, the answer is that the electron is absorbing the force of recoil, the time can be calculated using HUP Delta E Delta T geq h. Pi is not involved. This time interval turns out to be about 10^-15 s.

Proof that this is indeed the case can be found by examining, using the same Hall effect, the speed of electrons in an AC carrying wire. It is found that the electrons do not move at all, they appear to be frozen in place. This raises the question if the electrons are not moving at all, how do they convey the current?
 
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Thanks for response.
Your work is deep and requires considerable study.
While I will attempt, I only meant to draw your attention to various interaction types as macro level interactions. Intention was not to say they were all applicable for electron, as this is a particle to be dealt with at least by QFT and QCD if not beyond SM.

Your paper covers DM and acknowledges its existence and you also relate it to "Aether" type!

Please wait for my paper soon to be published where I describe the nature of DM. In that theory electron is a composite particle and so are two types of photons.

Description of Single electron and Planck limits etc., and particle theory are one way to understand its nature.

Relating it to QED and Electromagnetic interaction such as Maxwell type are its collective aspects, in classical EM we have to understand not only E and M parts and if parallel photons are intermediary to Electron self interaction of wire flow of electricity I have no objection nor endorsement as I have not studied this topic deeply.

But for particles there could be a continuum of many types of QFD QCD BSM BEC aspects. some of these you address and this field of study is dynamic.

So my interest is in learning more about electron photon interactions and your description of wavelengths and energies seem to be dual, both macro level and also in terms of wave wave interactions?

Certainly there a lot to learn about Photon electron relationship!

Thanks.
Ravi
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Former Scientific Secretary ISRO HQ
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Particle and Space Physics
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But for particles there could be a continuum of many types of QFD QCD BSM BEC aspects. some of these you address and this field of study is dynamic.

So my interest is in learning more about electron photon interactions and your description of wavelengths and energies seem to be dual, both macro level and also in terms of wave wave interactions?

Certainly there a lot to learn about Photon electron relationship!
Dear Dr. Sharma, The theory I have outlined in my article “Redefining Electrons: A Modern theory oof the Aether” challenges conventional explanations of photon-electron interactions and offers an alternative perspective. Addressing the points I’ve raised in this paper against conventional explanations:

It is argued that the conventional explanation of photon-electron interaction within the atom faces challenges in terms of the size disparity between photons and electrons, a 500 nm photon being 168 million times the size of the classical electron (3 x 10^-15 m) as well as the wave nature of electrons (electron cloud). This raises the question of the mechanism of electron transition and photon emission within atoms, and suggests that it may not fully account for observations such as atomic clocks and high-frequency data processing in modern devices.

The theory described in the paper offers a specific mechanism for photon emission and absorption by electrons, whereby electrons have the capability of manufacturing photons internally as the need arises as a means of regulating their energy at a constant level. In order to do this they emit (or absorb) pulses of electric energy that undergo polarisation resulting in a stable configuration that we know of as quanta or photons. Look at the following picture.

photon-emission.jpg


The next figure shows how polarisation results in a stable configuration and the forming of a photon.

photonconfiguration.jpg


The photon might look like this :

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Therefore, the old conception of photons as excitations of the field, with all of the difficulties inherent in explaining where the energy comes from to produce the photons, how are they available so instantly, how their exact energy is determined and so on, is challenged and replaced by a new theory that resolves all of these questions and more.

For instance take the question of size of incoming photons, according to this new theory ALL photons, whether ‘real’ or ‘virtual’ have the same physical dimensions; namely a cross section of about 10^-16 m and a length of 10^-6 m. Therefore, there is no question of how photon absorption and emission takes place, it is a one on one process, i.e., one electron absorbs or emits one photon. Of course, this emission and absorption process can take place at the rate of hundreds of trillions of times per second, the electron is easily up to it.