special intreast groups and the space community

[edawg]

i belive the main reason why space advocates have never got their message out to the general public is becuase amercia is country based upon special intreast groups competing with each other.I am not smart enough to do a paper on this, but how does the commercial utilization of space help us solve some of the problems we have here in america? like social securtiy,medicare,healtcare,9 trillion dollar deficit and switching to a clean energy sources??<br /><br />My opinion is this the system is becoming taxed,america is starting to loose its foothold in the global market,what is needed is for the US to exploit new resources to feed our ever growing demands..<br /><br />so let the discussion begin!! =)

 

[edawg]

u guys suck...

 

[Swampcat]

<font color="yellow">"u guys suck..."</font><br /><br />And that's a really good way to responses <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[qso1]

Edawg:<br />u guys suck...<br /><br />Me:<br />If thats what your response will be to the general public, space advocacy is dead and buried LOL.<br /><br />Seriously, the biggest barrier to overcome IMO is shedding the percieved geek image that comes with interest in human spaceflight. The general public that I know simply could care less about it beyond the gee whiz factor. That factor shows up when there is a major achievement such as landing a man on the moon. The first shuttle mission, unmanned Mars landings. Once the honeymoon ends, its back to business as usual for GP which is question space spending louder than questioning the deficit. This because they have help from the mass media which is lukewarm towards human space flight as well.<br /><br />Which leads to the other perception which is at least partly true, the money spent. The billions of dollars and the perception it all goes to send a few people up and to support the ground personnell, welfare for engineers is what it has been called.<br /><br />If the media spent as much effort showing the deficit and commenting negatively about that as they have been so willing to do on spaceflight (Remember the "Troubled Hubble" moniker).<br /><br />For the record, the deficit is somewhere around $400 billion this year alone. NASA budgets are about $16 billion annually. The deficit is at a bare minimum, twice the size of all NASA spending since NASAs inception in 1958. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[edawg]

idk i just attempted to broker a deal for a zero-g kama sutra(really not kidding) only to find out playboy,jackass and victorias secret ''angels'' ad got turned down by an unamed company..based in florida...it seems that mindsets havent changed since the 70s.How the hell are people going to advocate space to the mass market if ya cant advertise to it!!??

 

[nexium]

Some paranoid people (and some other kinds of illness) think they would feel safer off planet: Unfortunately most of them have little money, and their work skills are unreliable. Neil

 

[edawg]

1 kiss my arse i just sold my first turboprop engine,im still learning the market,space adventures wont do it either ;(2 Is anyone doing anything to help the space community? If not shhh<br /><br /><br />