# The resulting particles from the collision of 2 Gold Ions

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#### BoJangles

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<p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Ok don&rsquo;t ask me why, but I'm starting to get interested in chemistry and sub atomic physics, so I have (as usual) several dumb questions to ask.</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Below is an image from Brookhaven accelerator. It depicts the resulting particle collision of 2 gold ions.</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Maths tells us we can&rsquo;t see anything smaller than a quark because we don&rsquo;t have enough energy to peer below this level.</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Now from my understanding each proton and neutron has 3 quarks, Gold has 79 protons and 120 neutrons and 79 electrons.</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Protons =<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>79 = <span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>237 quarks</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Electrons =<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>79</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Neutrons =<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>120 =<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>360 quarks</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Total possible particles we should be seeing in 2 gold ions = 1352</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Sooo, what&rsquo;s going on in this picture?</font></p><p style="margin:0cm0cm10pt" class="MsoNormal"><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/7/c665100d-12d9-4a1d-877a-1f6d8c5ca8a8.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#808080">-------------- </font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>Let me start out with the standard disclaimer ... I am an idiot, I know almost nothing, I haven’t taken calculus, I don’t work for NASA, and I am one-quarter Bulgarian sheep dog.  With that out of the way, I have several stupid questions... </em></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>*** A few months blogging can save a few hours in research ***</em></font></p> </div>

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#### vogon13

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<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Energy of motion of the 2 ions can be converted into additional particles.&nbsp; Pions, kaons, photons, gluons, W particles, lint, mesons, vorlons, neutrinos, etc.&nbsp; They can decay into other weird yon wee beasties too. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

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#### BoJangles

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Thanks vogon13 <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#808080">-------------- </font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>Let me start out with the standard disclaimer ... I am an idiot, I know almost nothing, I haven’t taken calculus, I don’t work for NASA, and I am one-quarter Bulgarian sheep dog.  With that out of the way, I have several stupid questions... </em></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>*** A few months blogging can save a few hours in research ***</em></font></p> </div>

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#### DrRocket

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Ok don&rsquo;t ask me why, but I'm starting to get interested in chemistry and sub atomic physics, so I have (as usual) several dumb questions to ask.Below is an image from Brookhaven accelerator. It depicts the resulting particle collision of 2 gold ions.Maths tells us we can&rsquo;t see anything smaller than a quark because we don&rsquo;t have enough energy to peer below this level.Now from my understanding each proton and neutron has 3 quarks, Gold has 79 protons and 120 neutrons and 79 electrons.Protons =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 79 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 237 quarksElectrons =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 79Neutrons =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 120 =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 360 quarksTotal possible particles we should be seeing in 2 gold ions = 1352Sooo, what&rsquo;s going on in this picture? <br />Posted by Manwh0re</DIV></p><p>Vogon is correct.</p><p>You almost certainly would not see a bunch of quarks.&nbsp; So far as I know only a couple of quarks have reportedly been seen anyway.&nbsp; When you&nbsp; knock a couple of particle together you get all sorts of stuff that breeds even more stuff.&nbsp; It takes some pretty sophisticated analysis to isolate individual events and figure out what is going on.&nbsp; It is a lot more complicated than simply having all the elementary constituents come flying out.</p><p>One problem with quarks is that they are held together by the strong force.&nbsp; The strong force gets stronger with distance, sort of like the tension in a rubber band increases as it is stretched.&nbsp; When you get the quarks far enough apart to there is enough energy to form new quarks and you wind up with two set of bound quarks so you get to start all over again to try to separate them.&nbsp; Muller talks about this in one of his lectures in Physics for Future Presidents.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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#### BoJangles

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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thanks,</span> <p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">Yeah i may have fallen to sleep through that one, but only because I watch these things when I&rsquo;m tired. I might try and track it down.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">So basicaly, the reason there is more particiles than there is constiuents is basically becuase some of the kynetic energy gets converted into sub atomic particles, and&nbsp; those into even more.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif'">ok i think im good with all this now.</span></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#808080">-------------- </font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>Let me start out with the standard disclaimer ... I am an idiot, I know almost nothing, I haven’t taken calculus, I don’t work for NASA, and I am one-quarter Bulgarian sheep dog.  With that out of the way, I have several stupid questions... </em></font></p><p align="center"><font size="1" color="#808080"><em>*** A few months blogging can save a few hours in research ***</em></font></p> </div>

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#### Mee_n_Mac

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Energy of motion of the 2 ions can be converted into additional particles.&nbsp; Pions, kaons, photons, gluons, W particles, lint, mesons, vorlons, neutrinos, etc.&nbsp; They can decay into other weird yon wee beasties too. &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by <strong>vogon13</strong></DIV><br /><br />Vorlons eh ?</p><p><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>

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#### vogon13

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<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Unlikely, but allowed by Heisenberg.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

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#### origin

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Ok don&rsquo;t ask me why, but I'm starting to get interested in chemistry and sub atomic physics, so I have (as usual) several dumb questions to ask.Below is an image from Brookhaven accelerator. It depicts the resulting particle collision of 2 gold ions.Maths tells us we can&rsquo;t see anything smaller than a quark because we don&rsquo;t have enough energy to peer below this level.Now from my understanding each proton and neutron has 3 quarks, Gold has 79 protons and 120 neutrons and 79 electrons.Protons =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 79 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 237 quarksElectrons =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 79Neutrons =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 120 =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 360 quarksTotal possible particles we should be seeing in 2 gold ions = 1352Sooo, what&rsquo;s going on in this picture? <br />Posted by BoJangles</DIV><br /><br />A really minor point:</p><p>Gold typically has 118 neutrons </p><p>The gold nucleus is what is used in the collision so there are no electrons associated with the gold ion.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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