Top 10 Reasons Why I Hate Star Trek

[Saiph]

IIRC it's customary for an officer of the ship to accompany the crew that go on a raid, landing, boarding, or trading mission. This is so that a trusted individual is in charge to keep the crew in line, and have an established chain of command.<br /><br />However, it's usually the first mate that goes on the missions (like boarding parties etc), not the captain.<br /><br />Also, they don't send <i>both</i> nor do they throw in lots of other valuable high ranked crew. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[bdewoody]

My biggest problem with this and all space faring Sci-Fi shows is the total disregard for relativity regarding time. As I understand it, even if we go to a nearby star like Vega, by the time we get back several decades would have gone by on earth. On most space shows time is dealt with as a base constant and never gets stretched or compressed. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em><font size="2">Bob DeWoody</font></em> </div>

 

[PistolPete]

Warp engines in Star Trek bend spacetime around the ship. So that the ship itself does not move, but spacetime does. Therefore time dilation is not an issue. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>

 

[love2grow2live]

"Also, they don't send both nor do they throw in lots of other valuable high ranked crew."<br /><br />Like hell they don't. It's not uncommon to see the first mate, chief engineer, chief of security, and the chief medical officer all leaving the ship at the same time to go on some high-risk mission.<br /><br />It would make much more sense to have a SEAL-type team for such missions. A team of highly trained and well equiped personel who are capable of accomplishing the mission, and whose loss (should the worst happen) would not have any significant impact on the operations aboard the ship.<br /><br />Just look at how military operations in the real world are conducted. Do the top levels of command ever put themselves in harm's way by going behind enemy lines? Of course they don't, because they are too valuable to be risked. Instead, they send in special forces whose sole job is to take such risks.

 

[bdewoody]

Face it they can't afford to have that many highly paid cast members. I'm sure that is why the "stars" of the show get to go on away missions. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em><font size="2">Bob DeWoody</font></em> </div>

 

[5stone10]

I don't hate Star Trek at all.<br /><br />Its kept many people employed for going on 40 years now.

 

[yevaud]

Well, actually, yes it is uncommon. What do you think they have specialists in various fields for? You delegate, that's what. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[Saiph]

love2grow2live: I was refering to reality with that comment, not Star Trek (where they do throw every important person into the line of fire).<br /><br />I was also specifically refering to older traditions than modern military arrangements, i.e. sailing ships. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[lampblack]

<font color="yellow">6. Are those supposed to be aliens? They are remarkably similar to human beings. <br /><br />Yes, compared to Babylon 5, Farscape, Dr. Who, etc., Star Trek suffered from a remarkable lack of imagination in this regard.</font><br /><br />I vaguely recall a Gene Roddenberry interview in which somebody asked him about this. His reply (or words to this effect): "Unfortunately, the only pool of actors readily available consists entirely of human beings. As long as that is the case, the Enterprise will mainly encounter two-legged, two-armed creatures whose heads (and other body parts) are pretty much the same place ours are." <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[lampblack]

<font color="yellow">Never beam a lawyer into space, someone might come across the frozen desicated corpse. <br /><br />Always set the transporter to deep, solid rock.</font><br /><br />Or, maybe full dispersal. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[love2grow2live]

"I vaguely recall a Gene Roddenberry interview in which somebody asked him about this. His reply (or words to this effect): "Unfortunately, the only pool of actors readily available consists entirely of human beings. As long as that is the case, the Enterprise will mainly encounter two-legged, two-armed creatures whose heads (and other body parts) are pretty much the same place ours are."<br /><br /><br />Perhaps this was a good excuse for the original Star Trek, but with modern computer animation Star Trek's offspring has no excuse.<br /><br />And besides their physical appearance, I think their mannerisms and cultures are too similar to human beings. Sure, they throw in a few minor bits here and there in an attempt to make them seem different, but all-in-all there is no real difference between us and them.<br /><br />Ferengi are simply human businessmen with big ears.<br /><br />Betazoids are simply humans with extreme emotional sensitivity.<br /><br />Vulcans are simply humans with no emotional sensitivity.<br /><br />Klingons are simply Japanese warriors from WWII with funky foreheads.<br /><br /><br />I could go on, and on, and on...

 

[spayss]

"Good drama needs to be somewhat believable, or else it becomes comical"<br /><br />What a strange comment on Star Trek. Folks need a seatbelt to make it credible but paying no attention to the fundamental properties of physics doesn't make it not credible?<br /><br />Star Trek is not at all 'somewhat believable'. It's as completely unbelievable as Pinnocho or Snow White. Star Trek is entertainment.

 

[cdr6]

Item 2<br /><br />The original series was based on the "China Sailor" era of the U.S. Navy. That is to say the Captian is one to go in and do the heroics/make first contact/be the problem solver. He/she IS the represenitive fof the Federation out there in deep space, he/she also has the power to make policyand otherwise speak for the Federation. (All others on board are his support team.) It should be remembered that in the original series the Enterprise was a science vessel first and a military vessel second. Which is why we never saw Marines on board the Enterprise. (Sort of glossed over in later offerings of ST)

 

[love2grow2live]

"What a strange comment on Star Trek. Folks need a seatbelt to make it credible but paying no attention to the fundamental properties of physics doesn't make it not credible?"<br /><br /><br />I don't think it's a strange comment at all. Science fiction is all about imagining "What if this was possible?" A show about exploring the galaxy in which people were incapable of even reaching the nearest star would be quite a disappointment. So you allow them to stretch reality in that respect, but that does not mean you allow them to get away with something as stupid as constantly falling out of their chairs when the simplest of real-world technology could prevent it.<br /><br />I find it much easier to enjoy a show when I'm not constantly being forced to ask myself "why didn't they just do it like this?"<br /><br /><br />"Star Trek is not at all 'somewhat believable'."<br /><br /><br />I agree, and that's why Star Trek sucks.