What I hate about the new Dr. Who

[Leovinus]

There isn't much I don't like about the new Dr. Who (both Eccleston & Tennet presiding). But here are some gripes:<br /><br />1) Mickey. Thank goodness we finally got rid of him.<br />2) The interior of the Tardis -- looks like they're in the middle of some swampy forest. Lighting is terrible, set is terrible.<br />3) CAN WE PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE BESIDES EARTH? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[ebort]

i hate it ...it's far too self aware..smug and irretreviably post ironic..almost as if it has fallen victim to one of it's own plot lines and been taken over by some devious Alien menace lol..want a jelly baby?

 

[flynn]

3) Have you seen the episode where they are awkening Satan on the threshold of a Blackhole? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>

 

[Leovinus]

I guess that hasn't aired yet over here. The last one I saw was where a bunch of EARTHLINGS in ENGLAND got their faces blanked. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

The one he's referring to will air this Friday, I believe. Well, part one anyway. It's a good one. I think you'll like it. And don't worry, it doesn't take place on Earth. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> It's easily the most alien setting of the new series. Reminded me slightly of the original Solaris.<br /><br />This isn't the first time Dr Who has been stuck on Earth. The Jon Pertwee years featured Earth almost exclusively, and even had a plot device to enforce that. (The Doctor had been exiled to 20th Century Earth, and his TARDIS rendered inoperative.) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[flynn]

I read somewhere that they wanted to reintroduce the concept of "the Doctor" and "time travel" before confusing matter with too much bizarreness. <br /><br />I've read simular things with Futurama where if they had a monster/alien heavy show they wouldn't show the News Monster <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>

 

[djtt]

bring back futurama!

 

[jmilsom]

<font color="yellow">CAN WE PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE BESIDES EARTH?</font><br /><br />Yeah man, get back to those Welsh quarries and start simulating some far away planets again! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[flynn]

Comedy central are making a dozen new episodes with a option of more in 2008. It would be sooner but they're busy on the simpsons movie <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>

 

[vagueship]

And the "babe" is fat.

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Yeah man, get back to those Welsh quarries and start simulating some far away planets again! <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />One of my favorite moments on the old series was in "The Hand of Fear" when the TARDIS lands in a deserted, rock-strewn area and Sarah asks the Doctor what planet they've landed on. He explains that they're on Earth, in an actual gravel quarry. <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> (Unfortunately, one that's just finished setting up to do some blasting....)<br /><br />Then there was the charity spoof "The Curse of Fatal Death". "All those endless gravel quarries...."<br /><br />The upcoming "Impossible Planet" is filmed on a sound stage, with the alien world realized through sets and CGI. Visually, I think it works quite well. Another non-Earth setting this season was in "New Earth". Obviously the planet resembled Earth fairly well, superficially, but it definitely wasn't Earth. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[mattblack]

Leovinius: <br /><br /> />>Here are some gripes: <br /><br />1) Mickey. Thank goodness we finally got rid of him.<<<br /><br />He's not Wesley Crusher. And he's probably the most realistic human character in the show.<br /> <br /> />>2) The interior of the Tardis -- looks like they're in the middle of some swampy forest. Lighting is terrible, set is terrible.<<<br /><br />Er.... So?! Besides, this is about the 5th version of the Tardis interior and Tardis has more than one control room. That's part of Doctor Who canon.<br /> <br /> />>3) CAN WE PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE BESIDES EARTH?<<<br /><br />Sure, can't disagree with you there. However, much of the original Doctor Who was centered on Earth for budgetary reasons. Also, until the Doctor gets a non-human companion, expect to see a lot more Earth. And besides -- MANY Science fiction shows are Earth-centered and even Star Trek couldn't resist that. It shouldn't escape anyones notice that 9 out of the 10 Star Trek motion pictures have significant scenes or are actually centered on Earth. So much for the 'Final Frontier', eh?<br /><br />Doctor Who isn't perfect, but its more than good enough to deflect most criticism. The new Who is THAT good. And people should not forget that it is NOT an American-made Sci-Fi show. To a lot of Science Fiction fans around the world, American-made is a synonym for mediocrity. That's what makes it different and in some ways better. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

I found Mickey very annoying at first, especially in the pilot. But he grew on me, especially at the end of the first season (when I decided that he's way too good for Rose; she frankly doesn't deserve his loyalty, considering how much she takes him for granted). In the second season, I really came to like him. I will miss him. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[jmilsom]

I like Rose. I once read that Rose has the the most homphones of any English word. Is this correct? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>I heard a rumor that Rose is going to be killed at the end of this season, does anyone know if that's true?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Wellll......if you want to know, look below. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />SPOILERSPACE (highlight the blank area to see it)<br /><font color="#5D6F80"><br />No, Rose does not die at the end of the season. However, she does leave the series in the big finale. And she leaves in a very permanent way, so don't expect to see her again until the scriptwriters can come up with a plausible plot device.<br /></font><br />END SPOILERSPACE <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[dragon04]

Rose is a cutie! I vote that they don't kill her off. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[scipt]

The bbc can produce good period dramas and the best nature series in the world (Attenborough!) plus a few great news programmes and science documentaries. However the BBC should never produce Sci-Fi. THey just don't have the budget, it looks so cheap it's unbelieveable. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

What's cheap about the good doctor? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Yeah.<br /><br />I just watched the final "Prime Suspect" (Helen Mirrin) last evening, and it was very well done indeed. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[qzzq]

<i>What's cheap about the good doctor?</i><br /><br />The sets, lighting, props and plot(-s). <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Sorry, I gave it a go because Calli can't stop quoting the good doctor (and the quotes are usually pretty smart and/or funny), but I barely made it through two episodes. It just couldn't interest me. The cheesyness of the whole thing prevented me from taking it seriously, or even be amused by it. <br /><br />Then again, I rarely watch TV these days. <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>***</p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

Do bear in mind it's intended for children primarily. Some of the cheesiness is intentional. The rest is mainly a matter of personal taste. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[JonClarke]

The early ones certainly had cheap sets and props. Not the most recent series. But the plots were rarely cheap.<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>