<i>Hehehe Apollo V2.0</i><br /><br />Hey, I like it. But I think you could go one better than that and just call it 'Apollo.' Essentially picking up where we left off decades ago. The critics of the program would either be left speechless or have a field day. America's next manned mission to the Moon would simply be Apollo 18.<br /><br />Politically unworkable, of course, though it would demonstrate some real stones on the part of NASA.<br /><br />Failing that, Asclepius works for me (for similar reasons).
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I know you're right. <br />Nicely said. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><strong><font size="3" color="#3366ff">Columbia and Challenger </font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="3" color="#3366ff">Starships of Heroes</font></strong></p> </div>
Too much of a mouth full - need something catchy, descriptive and easy to remember.<br /><br /><font color="red">DO NO HARM</font>/safety_wrapper>
<b>Heavy Launcher: Neptune<br />Crew Launcher: Mars</b><br /><br />I always liked the idea of naming the launchers after Planets. After Jupiter then Saturn the next logical choice is Neptune. Since the crew launcher is smaller it should go the other direction. And naming it Mars seems just so presumptuous.<br /><br />The missions must be named and the crew launch vehicle and the lunar vehicle and maybe even the engine module. I’m not sure what to name those but I think it should be something more uniquely American rather then more old Europe gods.
I like the idea of Apollo 18. But more realistically, what about Apollo 2020.<br /><br />Or if that doesn't work, we can name the entire program "The 70's Show"...
How about "Union", english for "Soyuz"? That way when they are grounded they can simply say they will be flying Union missions and sneak it by the press.
You people give me pain in the klarn! "Son of Apollo", indeed! Why not name a B747, "Son of the Wright Flyer?!"<br /><br />Would you rather have NO MANNED SPACE PROGRAM AT ALL?<br /><br />If you want to carry this "S.O.A." thing further, then why not Project Phoenix? After all, isn't this what should have been done after Apollo 17+x?<br /><br />The Shuttle Program has never had a name. It has simply been the Space Transportation System. The ORBITERS were named, but not the program!<br /><br />But I would propose several other alternatives:<br /><br />Project New Horizons - for that is what we are looking toward.<br /><br />Project Galileo - after Robert Heinlein's "Rocket Ship Galileo".<br /><br />Project Diana - for isn't that another name for the goddess of the Moon?<br /><br />Project Sagan - for the astronomer who tried to teach us about the universe.<br /><br />Project Goddard - for obvious reasons.<br /><br />Khomarex nal khestarex! The structure that fails to grow, dies! (Old Klingon saying!)<br /><br />Rather than complaining about the intevening years between Apollo 17 and 2018 or whenever, we better be doing our damnedest to pump up support...NOW and for the future! I may be an old man, now, and the days when I walked the beach at Canaveral and shook the hands of the Seven are long gone! But we'd better try to rekindle The Dream of exploring the universe among our youngsters...or teach them to sing the Chinese national anthem every time they look up at the Moon!<br /><br />Ad Luna! Ad Aries! Ad Astra!<br />
I will personally see to it that your pet is drowned at birth you monsters. You are selling out humanity with your filthy plutonium fireworks. I hope all of you involved go straight to hell.
Believe nothing that you hear!!!!<br /><br /><br /><br />ALL LIES!!!!<br /><br />FOLLOW ME!!!!!!
Apollo-on-steroids is nice. Maybe in 2030 it will be Apollo-on-asteroids?<br /><br />I wonder if I told BruceGagnon that there will be absolutely no plutonium in this project, if he'd believe me... Anyways, plutonium is to space just another element. Even if it would cause radiation, so what? Space is full of radiation. And even if plutonium is an evil element, shouldn't you be glad to get it blasted away from this planet? 
<br /><br />You're just making a fool of yourself, BruceGagnon. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff9900">----------------------------------</font></p><p><font color="#ff9900">My minds have many opinions</font></p> </div>
<br /><br />You're just making a fool of yourself, BruceGagnon. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff9900">----------------------------------</font></p><p><font color="#ff9900">My minds have many opinions</font></p> </div>Post deleted by mattblack <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!! LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
<font color="yellow">Apollo-on-steroids is nice. Maybe in 2030 it will be Apollo-on-asteroids? <br /><br /><font color="white">What a difference an a makes <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /></font></font>
I think this just for starters, I'm waiting for his diatribe on botanical preservation (see his profile)
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>The Shuttle Program has never had a name. It has simply been the Space Transportation System. The ORBITERS were named, but not the program! <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />That's a good point. I think the difference between STS and Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo is that STS was from the start intended not to be a narrow program in and of itself but to be a long-lived system that would support other programs (such as ISS). Now, we all know that didn't work out quite the way it was originally intended, but that's life. CEV will be in a similar boat in that while it will certainly support programs, it will not itself be a program. Okay, it's a program in an organizational sense, but it won't be specifically a lunar program, for instance. That's just one of the things it will be capable of supporting. It's a program in the same sense that 777 is a program at Boeing. It needs a name, but CEV is a perfectly good one.<br /><br />But programs to acheive certain objectives might be a different ballgame. For instance, this planned lunar program (utilizing CEV) could rate a name of its own, and I think the launch vehicles do need names. The vast majority of ELVs have names, even if they didn't have names originally. In the US, we've had Juno, Jupiter, Saturn, Atlas, Titan, Delta, Taurus, Pegasus, Redstone, and so on. Some of those aren't very interesting; Delta is just a Greek letter, and Redstone is named for Redstone Arsenal. But it's easier to remember than some dull alphanumeric descriptor, and you do need a way of referring to the thing.<br /><br />I do like the idea of naming it after a planet. One thought is that the most powerful unmanned vehicles in the US have been named for Titans. That could be continued, except that no other planet is named for a Titan. Uranus was the father of the Titans, but that name is waaaay too prone to parody. One possibility would be "Kronos" or "Cronus" (the transliteration <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em> -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
Thank you, Ma'am. At least two of us have given this some reasoned thought. I can't recall the spelling of the name: I thought it might be "Chronus", as in the god of time... But I could be mistaken, as I was once, on July 29, 1952. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />I know this sounds a bit corny, and I'd rather not associate the new program with sci-fi, but what about "Vulcan"? It is a simple, two syllable name, with a sort of power to it. "Hercules" also might be a good choice, though that might be a good name for the heavy-lift launch vehicle. <br /><br />Or, what about "Odyseus" (sp)? Wasn't that the other name for Jason of the Golden Fleece quest?<br />After all, this is the beginning of a new quest for knowledge and possibly riches of one kind or another. "Project Odyseus"...has kind of a ring to it.<br /><br />Anyway, CaliArcale, thanks for putting some thought into this.<br /><br />Ad Luna! Ad Aries! Ad Astra!<br />Trailrider
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Would you rather have NO MANNED SPACE PROGRAM AT ALL?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />$100 billion can buy approximately 200 unmanned probes. That's 20 probes for every planet in our system (and for Luna) and still incorporates a 10% failure rate.
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