What will happen when Jupiter storms pas each other July 4th

[spacehappy]

<font color="yellow">Jovian Storms Prepare To Duke It Out<br /><br />In one corner will be Jupiter's Great Red Spot, a behemoth of a tempest that is twice as large as Earth and whose 350 mph winds have been whirling for hundreds of years.<br /><br /> Its contender will be Oval BA, also known as "Red Jr.," a young six-year storm that is only half Great Red's size but whose winds are just as fierce.<font color="white"><br /><br />http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060605_storm_battles.html<br /><br />What will happen when Jupiter storms pass each other July 4th<br /><br />Anyone would like to phantom a guess. <br /><br />I will. As the two Large storm system first start to approach each other Little Red (BA) will drift towards Big Red more than they will expect. This is due to a mutual gravitational attraction. After getting closer than expected the pressure from the wind will so great that they will disrupt each others weather pattern, Big Red will be less effected and push off of each other sending Little Red farther away from Big Reds. All these two giant storm systems are just pebbles in a turbulent ocean of gas they are floating on, before becoming a giant red spot they were low dense moons of Jupiter’s.<br /></font></font>

 

[CalliArcale]

You mean "Jupiter storms", right? These aren't on Saturn.<br /><br />It'll be interesting to see what happens. I don't think gravity will have much to do with it, but meteorology will. There is no evidence that they are moons; if they were, where did Red Jr come from? And why do they behave like cyclones? And why is it possible for them to change color?<br /><br />The storms are confined to bands of prevailing winds. The same principle affects storms on Earth, but the winds are so much more powerful on Jupiter that it is much harder for a storm to traverse the zones. I expect there will be a transfer of material between the storms, should they pass close enough, so we may be in for more color changes. The GRS got very pale after its last encounter with another storm; perhaps this will reinvigorate its color. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[spacehappy]

<font color="yellow">"Jupiter storms"<font color="white"><br /><br />OOps I made the changes, I been watching too many Saturn reports lately.<br /><br />There was a Scientist years ago that proposed a large object floating on a dense ocean of gas as the culprit that formed the great red spot. It has been active for hundreds of years? I don't necessarily agree 100 percent with this hypothesis but it would help explain the longevity of the storm systems.</font></font>

 

[larper]

I saw a special on Chaos Theory a long time ago. In it, they showed that in a chaotic, rotating system such as the Jovian atmosphere, strange attractors exist that naturally lead to a single spot like the GRS exactly at that latitude. Thus, the GRS is a result of chaotic systems, and will endure pretty much for ever. Thus, it should eat up any contenders and go on pretty much as it always has. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong><font color="#ff0000">Vote </font><font color="#3366ff">Libertarian</font></strong></p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>It has been active for hundreds of years?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Correct. There is some debate over whether Giovanni Cassini or Robert Hooke discovered it, but either way the first recorded sighting was over three hundred years ago. The Great Red Spot is harder to spot with a backyard telescope today than it was a decade ago; it recently got bleached during an interaction with another storm, and although it isn't any smaller than it was, it doesn't stand out as well visibly. <br /><br />Observations from deep space probes (Jupiter has been visited by seven: Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1, Voyager 2, Ulysees, Galileo, and Cassini) have revealed that the GRS is a massive high-pressure system. (This is a notable contrast to hurricanes on Earth, which are low-pressure systems.) Its cloud tops are higher than the surrounding region, and much colder as well. This may be purely a function of altitude, but may have something to do with why the feature persists. Technically speaking, it is classed as an anti-cyclone because of the direction of rotation. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[vandivx]

I bet I am not alone who has dificulty grasping how a mere atmospheric effect could endure that long unless it is caused by some 'surface feature', that is something deep down underneath the spot (magma eruption for want of better name or something like that originating deep down - the spot could still move given that Jupiter doesn't have solid shell like Earth has), that is something situated in deeper and denser realms of Jupiter or else what we call atmospehere on there is really semi-solid kept fluid due to high pressure<br /><br />not being astronomer and not making planetary study my area of interest, could I hazard guess that what gets called Jupiters 'atmosphere' is so dense and heated and composed of some exotic stuff (as far as 'atmosphere' goes) that it is highly misleading as far as non specialists go to talk about atmosphere and storms which are suggestive of our gas atmosphere<br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised if the small spot got swallowed by the big one, funny also is the date of July 4th, surely there are no Americans on Jupiter? Or else why should it favour them like that LOL<br /><br />vanDivX <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>