Why does classical physics gravity formulas/measurements do not work at a quantum level, what’s missing?

[Fest3er]

You obviously didn't understand what I said ! If you have an empty bucket and drip water into the bucket , the space will fill up . If you speed up the drip the filling up will ''accellerate'' .

If the universe contains all matter and energy, where do the additional “drips” come from? Even if you found a source of addional “drips”, your bucket is a fixed volume. An expanding universe is a growing volume. Accelerating the rate of expansion means that the force causing the expansion must be increasing, to compensate for the increasing volume. Perhaps there is something surrounding what we perceive as the universe, that exerts an attractive force, pulling the universe outward, in all directions.

 

[Fest3er]

I like the theme if not the detail. The idea is that energy ( a sphere's interior as Thermo said) would be separate from the hypersphere universe but still a causal factor. Maybe from a parent supermassive black hole in another universe

Presumably the universe exists in the grand daddy of all gravity wells. I imagine that as light approaches the edges of that gravity well, the curvature of space-time would bend the light enough to confine it to within the “sphere”. But that would suggest the universe is a black hole. Hurts my brain to think about that!

 

[Thermoman]

If the universe contains all matter and energy, where do the additional “drips” come from? Even if you found a source of addional “drips”, your bucket is a fixed volume. An expanding universe is a growing volume. Accelerating the rate of expansion means that the force causing the expansion must be increasing, to compensate for the increasing volume. Perhaps there is something surrounding what we perceive as the universe, that exerts an attractive force, pulling the universe outward, in all directions.

Well unfortunately I mean very little to science and the world so they can answer their own questions from now on !

 

[Thermoman]

It’s because it’s the only way to deny the reality that we are never going anywhere.

Yes that is right , I am never telling science how to get somewhere .They can continue to shoot fireworks into the sky and call them Rockets !

 

[Gibsense]

Now, why is the Universe's expansion defying gravity by its expansion accelerating? It is either because of what happens to matter as it enters black holes or we are in a black hole.

Or emergent from one

 

[Catastrophe]

Unlike quantum physics, classical physics is generally characterized by the principle of complete determinism, although deterministic interpretations of quantum mechanics do exist.

Classical physics - Wikipedia​

Cat

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I have questioned newtons law commonly. I believe our understanding of gravity is wrong because of the lack of understanding of electricity. An emf is how I would rate gravity. Have you considered that gravity is just chemistry the bonds between substances. Heat defys gravity due to making particles move master and pushed to the top. Why is it that heat makes particles rise? This is the question that will solve anti gravity and I believe it will consist of EMFs including the center of the galaxy.

 

[Gibsense]

Why is it that heat makes particles rise

Relative densities. Heat separates particles. Therefore in any given volume, there are fewer particles than there would be in the same but cold volume. So the cold volume would be heavier/denser and displace the lighter volume.
Now here's the question. Why?

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Relative densities. Heat separates particles. Therefore in any given volume, there are fewer particles than there would be in the same but cold volume. So the cold volume would be heavier/denser and displace the lighter volume.
Now here's the question. Why?

Nuclear physics

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Relative densities. Heat separates particles. Therefore in any given volume, there are fewer particles than there would be in the same but cold volume. So the cold volume would be heavier/denser and displace the lighter volume.
Now here's the question. Why?

I understand that the quick moving electrons cause more collision requiring more space for them to occupy. I believe it has something to do with the charge of the electron or heat of the nucleus. Therefore when adding a flow of electrons you get friction making heat of the nucleus hotter and its electrons speed up requiring more space to occupy.

 

[Classical Motion]

“heat” adds energy and collision rate to the “heated” molecules. This collision rate is like a pressure within the external air mass. The least resistance to that pressure is up. The heated molecules with it’s pressure rise. The heated molecules are buzzing faster than the other air molecules. As they rise, they transfer that buzz to the air. The buzz is dissolved. The heat escapes.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

“heat” adds energy and collision rate to the “heated” molecules. This collision rate is like a pressure within the external air mass. The least resistance to that pressure is up. The heated molecules with it’s pressure rise. The heated molecules are buzzing faster than the other air molecules. As they rise, they transfer that buzz to the air. The buzz is dissolved. The heat escapes.

And it is the weight and movement that push that atom up. Thank you for the information. In chemistry there is a repulsive force that pushes substances away. Do you think EMFs could be responsible for key role in gravity?

 

[Classical Motion]

Absolutely, I have no doubt whatsoever that EM is an ingredient and necessary for gravity.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I have been studying nikola Tesla and when I saw how much resistance a super magnet can produce. As I watched the item almost completely deaccelerate by the magnet I know there has to be a push that can be harnessed besides RMFs. I currently am ordering some wire and magnets to tinker with. I love exploring science

 

[Classical Motion]

Tesla was great. He deserves much more honor. But those high voltage sparks are heavy with x-rays. I'm afraid it did him in.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

I just learned the patent office surpresses ideas including free energy and anti gravity

 

[Zachary Alexander P.]

I am pioneering another theory that reflects on Einstein's unified field theory which was an attempt to link electromagnetism and gravity to explain it quantum mechanically.
Here is a video explaining some of the concepts:

View: https://youtu.be/s7JDLBYonf4

If gravity is caused by the electromagnetic reluctance of neutrons, then the strong nuclear force would be required for gravity to pull charged particles together. The force of gravity may be "weak" because an electromagnetically reluctant object is not electrically or magnetically tied to field, but rather encapsulated by it as the quantum particles generating the field seek Lorentz force points of least resistance effectively moving electromagnetically reluctant mass toward a preexisting core where it already exists.

 

[Zachary Alexander P.]

I just learned the patent office surpresses ideas including free energy and anti gravity

Remember, knowledge is power, but it is also money. Big tech governments around the world use tech-knowledge to gain wealth and power to dominate peasants living around the world because they believe they are gods, but in reality they are only men like you and me. To find certain truths, you will have to dig and take routes that are not mainstream because ignorance and diversion are a predators most useful tools to project on their prey. Many governments operate in predator mode because they spy, stalk and exploit to feed their unquenchable thirst for dominance. Same with some religions which are basically forms of government. Some men are "religious" not because they seek truth and justice, but because they seek the power of God, so they feel they need to dominate and spy on everyone with technological powers otherwise the world will fall apart because they don't really believe in a God since he doesn't empower them and surrender his power to them to fulfill all their wicked desires. They are resentful people that deny their ability to error or to be human. Maybe I went too far with this response. Sorry for that. *Shrug*

 

[Gibsense]

Zach your comment may well encourage a questioning attitude to all things imposed. It doesn't mean all those with power and influence are always wrong and opposition is always right. Anyway glad you got that off your chest. What do I know anyway I'm just an old man.

We get confused and misled by the wrong people making the right statement and the right people making wrong statements

Talking of old men did anyone view Admin's posted interview with Roger Penrose? I was taken aback.

 

[Zachary Alexander P.]

It doesn't mean all those with power and influence are always wrong and opposition is always right.

We get confused and misled by the wrong people making the right statement and the right people making wrong statements

I agree. If a man has power or influence, it doesn't automatically make him wrong.
Though historically, it was common for men with power to become corrupt in the process of addiction to it and "chasing the dragon".

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Remember, knowledge is power, but it is also money. Big tech governments around the world use tech-knowledge to gain wealth and power to dominate peasants living around the world because they believe they are gods, but in reality they are only men like you and me. To find certain truths, you will have to dig and take routes that are not mainstream because ignorance and diversion are a predators most useful tools to project on their prey. Many governments operate in predator mode because they spy, stalk and exploit to feed their unquenchable thirst for dominance. Same with some religions which are basically forms of government. Some men are "religious" not because they seek truth and justice, but because they seek the power of God, so they feel they need to dominate and spy on everyone with technological powers otherwise the world will fall apart because they don't really believe in a God since he doesn't empower them and surrender his power to them to fulfill all their wicked desires. They are resentful people that deny their ability to error or to be human. Maybe I went too far with this response. Sorry for that. *Shrug*

No worries. I do have a perpetual motion idea system involving water and deep pressure variants like a air pressure operated water wheel that generates electricity

 

[Zachary Alexander P.]

No worries. I do have a perpetual motion idea system involving water and deep pressure variants like a air pressure operated water wheel that generates electricity

Perpetual motion? All energy is a conversion of some kind, but there are more efficient conversion methods.

 

[Classical Motion]

All mass and matter has a property we deny and don't believe in. And that property is perpetual motion. Motion is the property transferred with energy.

 

[CreatedEvolution]

Perpetual motion? All energy is a conversion of some kind, but there are more efficient conversion methods

There are such systems that are theoretical that even nikola Tesla has developed. When you harness the earths natural vibration, gravity, or atmospheric pressure. The energy input will be there as long as the earth is.

 

[billslugg]

The patent office will not patent free energy devices. Everything else is OK. I have seen a patent on a UFO drive. You do not have to show that something will work, only that it is novel, useful and not obvious to one trained in the art.

There is no free energy, Virginia.