10A Stage (Road to STS-122/1E)

[erioladastra]

<br />Since there will be a lot of interest in the Node 2 relocation, stage EVAs, starboard SARJ repair and everything else to get ready for 1E, I thought I would start a seperate thread for it. Keeping in mind that everything is under review, the tentative schedule right now is:<br /><br />11/9 - Stage EVA 5<br />11/12 - PMA2 relocate<br />11/14 - Node2/PMA2 relocate<br />11/20 - Stage EVA 10<br />11/24 - Stage EVA 11<br /><br />We are trying to work to a 12/6 launch but it is hard to not expect at least a few days slip.

 

[bobblebob]

Good luck to the crew both on the ground and on the station, and i hope everything gets completed on time.<br /><br />Regarding the SARJ repair (whenever it may be). Would that only be attempted when a shuttle crew is up there aswell, or could just the ISS crew handle it? During one of the MSB the other day, they did say its hard to actually fit time in for the shuttle crew to do it

 

[holmec]

Sounds good. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>

 

[erioladastra]

"Regarding the SARJ repair (whenever it may be). Would that only be attempted when a shuttle crew is up there aswell, or could just the ISS crew handle it? During one of the MSB the other day, they did say its hard to actually fit time in for the shuttle crew to do it "<br /><br />Shuttle is not needed.

 

[erioladastra]

"Can a PMA be attached to US Airlock when the airlock is connected to the station from the other side?"<br /><br />Not sure I understand the question but the airlock has only one port and that is used to mate it to the Node. So no matter where you move it is the same.

 

[MeteorWayne]

{bump} <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[rybanis]

So...EVA tomorrow then? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[usn_skwerl]

Yep...anyone know the time for the EVA? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

5 a.m. - ISS Expedition 16 Spacewalk Coverage (spacewalk scheduled to begin at 6 a.m.; Mission Status Briefing follows the spacewalk) - JSC (Public and Media Channels)

 

[usn_skwerl]

Anyone else watching? They got outside about an hour early. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

I am now

 

[MeteorWayne]

I am now <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[3488]

Post deleted by 3488 <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[3488]

Maybe slightly off topic.<br /><br />Moon as seen from ISS on Saturday 3rd November 2007.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[usn_skwerl]

Peggy looks a little messy clambering around where she was just before LOS, near the airlock. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[erioladastra]

"so they're not gonna connect the PMA2(?) to Node2 on this EVA? "<br /><br />On Nov 12, they attach PMA2 to Node 2 and on Nov 14 they attach the new stack to the front of the lab.

 

[bobblebob]

I got this from the KSC newsletter. Sums everything up nicely:<br /><br />4 a.m. CST Friday, Nov. 9 - NASA TV live coverage will begin as Expedition 16 Commander Peggy Whitson and Flight Engineer Yuri Malenchenko don U.S. spacesuits to conduct a 6.5-hour spacewalk to prepare a docking port on the forward end of the Destiny Laboratory to be detached. A press conference will follow the spacewalk on NASA TV, originating from NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston with questions from reporters at participating NASA sites. <br /><br />4 a.m. CST Monday, Nov. 12 - NASA TV will broadcast live coverage as Whitson and Flight Engineer Dan Tani use the station's Canadarm2 robotic arm to detach the docking port, known as pressurized mating adapter-2, and relocate it to the forward end of the Harmony module. No news conference is planned following the mating adapter relocation. <br /><br />3:30 a.m. CST Wednesday, Nov. 14 - NASA TV will broadcast live coverage as Whitson and Tani use the Canadarm2 to detach Harmony and its new docking adapter from their current location attached to the Unity module. They will reposition Harmony to be attached to the forward end of the Destiny Lab, its permanent location. This will be the first time a major component of the station has been relocated without a shuttle present. No news conference is planned following Harmony's relocation. <br /><br />4 a.m. CST Tuesday, Nov. 20 - NASA TV will broadcast live coverage as Whitson and Tani conduct a 6.5-hour spacewalk to hook up fluid, electrical and data lines for the relocated mating adapter and Harmony module. A press conference will follow the spacewalk on NASA TV, originating from Johnson with questions from participating NASA sites. <br /><br />4 a.m. CST Saturday, Nov. 24 - NASA TV will broadcast live coverage as Whitson and Tani conduct a final 6.5-hour spacewalk to complete the hookup of the mating adapter and Harmony module to the station and leave them ready for the docking of Atlantis and delivery o

 

[usn_skwerl]

Why do they need so much time between walks? not only in this particular evolution, but overall? <br /><br />Even taking into account draining and charging batteries, consumables, etc, why does it take so long to do a couple of EVA's, versus getting them all done in a week? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobblebob]

How physically demanding is a space walk? 6-7 hours stuck in a suit doesnt sound too fun (even if you do get great views)<br /><br />Also they need 24 hours at least so they can camp out in the airlock

 

[MeteorWayne]

It's called rest before going into an environment where if you screw up you could die.<br />It's mighty exhausting work from reports I've seen.<br />At least one of the two was on the previous spacewalk.<br /><br />Give 'em a break!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[usn_skwerl]

I understand that they're physically exhausted, the suits hard to maneuver. They're almost rigid, and their salaries are a lot less than one would expect for their undertaking, but I dunno, I'd think it's not as beneficial to take 3 or 4 days between walks. I would be of the mind that it'd be better to get it all done and push through it kind of quickly to kind of take advantage of the earthly endurance that the fresh crew member(s) could have doing the EVA. Bone density loss and whatnot, you know what I mean? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

You have a good point, but there's also the planning aspect.<br />Time outside is so precious that they want to get the most bang for the buck. Dozens of geeks figure out what tasks need to be done, what the most efficient order to do them is, what tools and supplies need to be set up where and when, etc.<br />The price of one tiny mistake there can be a few hours wasted outside because a tool or supply was not in place.<br />Other work probably takes place in the meantime, reconfiguring things and setting up.<br /><br />All in all, I'm sure they are as aggresive, timewise, as they can be while doing everything multihumanly possible to avoid missing the 1 item out of 5000 that can make a spacewalk worthless or wasteful.<br /><br />Just my perspective <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[missile_mother]

"ven taking into account draining and charging batteries, consumables, etc,"<br /><br />there is draining, drying, charging, recharging, post ops, pre ops, refresher training, tool gathering, etc just for the EVA's<br /><br />Also there is station operations and and maintenance (there are only 3 onboard), experiment monitoring, robotics ops, etc<br /><br />And....<br />the node/pma have some interior work between moves

 

[erioladastra]

Well we can do 3 EVAs in 9 days as planned/executed earlier this year. Rest and reconfiguring the suits is part of it but there are a lot of other activities that go along with these - for example, moving the Node in between last weeks and next weeks EVA. Rest is a minor part in this schedule - this stage is probably the most choreographed one so far. Of course, due to a possible problem with the EMU suits in a vacuum chamber the other day, all EVAs are currently on hold.

 

[bobblebob]

"Of course, due to a possible problem with the EMU suits in a vacuum chamber the other day, all EVAs are currently on hold. "<br /><br />What problem is this? First ive heard about it