Anyone like to help to look for the ill fated Mars Polar Lander?

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<p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">This is on the HiBLOG on the MRO HiRISE.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">The MRO has used the HiRISE to search for the ill fated Mars Polar Lander which seemed to crash on landing in the south polar region on Mars on: Friday 3rd December 1999.</font></strong></p><p><u><font size="2" color="#000080"><strong>http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/HiBlog/?p=134#comments</strong></font></u>http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/HiBlog/</p><p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">I cannot get the software to work. Bill Slugg has got it down to a fine art & perhaps some others members can also get it to work.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">Andrew Brown.</font></strong></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">Anyone???? <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/8/2/c85265a0-5c1b-45ce-b27e-4fa0860af072.Medium.gif" alt="" /><br /><br /></font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">Would do it my flaming self if I could get the sodding software to work. </font></strong><strong><font size="2" color="#000000"><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/5/ee4b237b-1e12-4547-8586-f9cfd6ac2a32.Medium.gif" alt="" /></font></strong><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">&nbsp; </font></strong><strong><font size="2" color="#000000"><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/14/fa71cb6c-fdb9-4459-ae90-1e4276700f84.Medium.gif" alt="" /></font></strong>&nbsp;<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/2/4af09abd-b6f5-473f-82fb-ec461151a8e1.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p><p><strong><font size="2" color="#000000">Andrew Brown.</font></strong><br /><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Anyone???? Would do it my flaming self if I could get the sodding software to work. &nbsp; &nbsp;Andrew Brown. <br /> Posted by 3488</DIV></p><p>Did you try their support forums?</p><p>http://isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov/IsisSupport/index.php</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">Did you try their support forums?http://isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov/IsisSupport/index.php <br />Posted by derekmcd</font></DIV></p><p><strong><font size="2">Cheers Derek, that's a huge help, it really is, pointing me in the right direction to get this sorted. </font></strong><strong><font size="2"><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/1/9/611fefd0-87b3-4d82-b979-8bc2b33c00ed.Medium.gif" alt="" /></font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">I have not done so, but I will do. I really, really&nbsp;want to help NASA with this. It IS very important that we discover what the hell happened to Mars Polar Lander.</font></strong></p><p><font size="2"><strong>Anyway the thing is, we would like to know what happened. Was it the current favoured theory that a software fault aboard MPL, gave a false reading, telling the lander was down, when it fact it was still 40 or so metres up (even under Mars's 37.8% gravity, that is still a serious fall).<br /><br />However other options are still open, such as:<br /><br />1). Did the cruise stage not seperate?<br /><br />2). Did the heat shield fail & MPL burned up as a meteor?<br /><br />3). Did the parachute not deploy?<br /><br />4). Did the landing rockets not ignite?<br /><br />5). Did the parachute / backshell not seperate?<br /><br />6). Did MPL land successfully, but the antennas, etc did not power up?<br /><br />Perhaps Mars itself scuppered the landing:<br /><br />1). Strong winds caused the MPL to drift & land hard.<br /><br />2). MPL landed on a large boulder & tipped over.<br /><br />3). MPL landed on a large boulder & was punctured underneath.<br /><br />Below: Viking 1 image showing the Big Joe boulder, in Chryse Planitia. Had Viking 1 landed on it, the mission would have failed. Did Mars Polar Lander, land on such a boulder?<br /><br /></strong></font><font size="2"><strong>http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=viking1bigjoesurroundinxk7.jpg</strong></font><br /><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/15/2bf2da1b-85fc-403a-9f0f-3b92c5e11080.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p><p><strong><font size="2">Once again, cheers Derek</font></strong>. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/12/bb2e01bc-865c-4872-9c74-a4da22a18726.Medium.gif" alt="" />&nbsp; <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/11/005b6572-258d-49b2-9b4e-e43d45bf099f.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p><p><strong><font size="2">Andrew Brown.</font></strong></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<p>I hope you figure it out, Andrew.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I do agree it is an important issue to resolve.&nbsp; Seems like a project you are perfectly suited for and one that you have a personal investment in.&nbsp; As for me, I'm not sure I could devote enough time and effort to make it worth it.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /> </p><p>Besides, from briefly perusing the OSX issues for getting it installed, it looks like like there is a rather steep learning curve.</p><p>As you can see by my signature, it's probably not a project suited for me. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">I hope you figure it out, Andrew.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I do agree it is an important issue to resolve.&nbsp; Seems like a project you are perfectly suited for and one that you have a personal investment in.&nbsp; As for me, I'm not sure I could devote enough time and effort to make it worth it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Besides, from briefly perusing the OSX issues for getting it installed, it looks like like there is a rather steep learning curve.As you can see by my signature, it's probably not a project suited for me. <br />Posted by derekmcd</font></DIV></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>Cheers Derek,</strong></font></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>It will very good to find out what happened, at least to get clues as to what went wrong. I was part of the campaign to get Phoenix approved, so yes I do have a personal investment in finding out what went wrong with her earlier sister craft. The main consensus is the software fault, that told MPL that it had already landed when still well above the surface, shutting down the thrusters too early.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>If we can find signs of the parachute (difficult now probably as dust will be covering it, making it blend in more with the surrounding terrain), heatshield, etc, then we can rule those out as factors in the failure. We'll see.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>Thank you very much for your support, Derek, it is very much appreciated. </strong></font><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/6/a9d622de-2fad-44f3-a6e8-0d886be82def.Medium.gif" alt="" /></strong></font><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>&nbsp;</strong></font><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/11/391ed5dd-075d-48f3-9bab-a7047aecdffb.Medium.gif" alt="" /></strong></font></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>Andrew Brown.</strong></font><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Keep refilling my Guinness like that and you'll get all the support you need.<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/6/c422d358-5b80-4271-863c-58ba67b19e30.Medium.gif" alt="" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>
 
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