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MeteorWayne

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I am aware of 15 possible meteor showers on Mars, need to verify the date of Sol 63 to see if it fits into any of those. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Hi MeteorWayne,<br /><br />It was on Sunday 7th March 2004. Hope that helps.<br /><br />BTW, I would like to see that list. Could it be posted or linked to on this thread please?<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Not easily, although I do intend to summarize the data and post it.<br /><br />It's in a book, so I have to retype everything, and with my typing skill level, that ain't a good thing <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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A bit like me than. My typing skills are not up to much <img src="/images/icons/crazy.gif" /> .<br /><br />I just thought this was very interesting. First a possible Cepheid Meteor or Viking 2 Orbiter <br />observation, than later on the Earth rose as the Morning Star, an interesting <br />morning for the MER A Spirit. What ever the streak was, it is a first in planetary exploration.<br /><br />Also the first Earth observation as the Morning Star from Mars, so predawn <br />twilight on Sol 63 is quite significant. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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OCR>text processing software. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Does anyone know if they are planning to observe comet Holmes with HiRISE? It must look awful from there! Also, it may have some scientific significance to observe a comet from 2 different angles (Earth & Mars).<br /><br />
 
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Hi rasun,<br /><br />I like your suggestion very much. A great idea. HiRISE would show the comet very well indeed.<br /><br />I wonder if anyone in JPL has thought of this? Also the comet is likely to be visible<br />in the martian night sky from the MERs too.<br /><br />From Mars, Comet 17/P Holmes is 1.330 AU.<br /><br />Also from Mars, Comet 17/P Holmes appears above the Square of Pegasus in Pegasus.<br /><br />Position of Comet 17/P Holmes as viewed from Mars.<br /><br />Interesting.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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I dunno...Starry Night is giving me an distance between Mars and Holmes of ~1.2 AUs. Either way, the difference in brightness between there and here is less than a magnitude, though the coma will be noticeably larger. <br /><br />I'd dig a HiRISE view, myself.
 
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Hi Thalion,<br /><br />I dunno either.<br /><br />Just done another Redshift chart, this time included the information for Comet 17/P Holmes<br />from Mars.<br /><br />Friday 2nd November 2007.<br /><br />Over the last few days, looks like the distance has increased to 1.353 AU.<br /><br />Wonder why the descrepancy between Redshift & Starry Night? Seems strange.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Article in Sky & Telescope on Martian Meteor observing with the MERs.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Thanx, Andrew <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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You are always more than welcome MeteorWayne.<br /><br />Whilst trolling around, found this.<br /><br />To me it seems conclusive.<br /><br />Predawn martian meteor, from the suspected martian Cepheid Meteor Shower,<br />parent body: Comet 114/P Wiseman-Skiff.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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As the comet may reach naked eye visibility, just checked out the postion of <br />Comet 8P/Tuttle as seen from Mars.<br /><br />Friday 30th November 2007.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Thought this might be interesting.<br /><br />Tuesday 25th December 2007.<br /><br /><font color="yellow">Sunrise with interesting planetary conjunction, from Summit of Olympus Mons & <br />Martian North Pole on Christmas Day 2007</font><br /><br />Sunrise & conjuction from Summit of Olympus Mons.<br /><br />Sun & Conjuction from Martian North Pole @ 17:59 UT, Christmas Day 2007.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> Happy Christmas everyone. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Came across this.<br /><br />Phobos & Deimos movie Sol 585 MER A Spirit.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Tuesday 1st January 2008. <br /><br />First Sunrise in 2008, from the Summit of Olympus Mons. <br /><br />Martian North Pole on New Year's Day 2008. <br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Any ideas anyone??<br /><br />MER A Spirit.<br /><br />Raw Pan Cam image Sol 1450. <font color="orange">The Sun or a longer exposure of Phobos @ night</font><br /><br />Another here with excessive blooming. <font color="orange">Common sense tells me it is the Sun, but the lighting <br />seems a bit muted (short exposure or is the landscape Phobos lit)?</font><br /><br />Shame that JPL no longer displays the local Gusev / Meridiani times on the raw <br />images of Spirit or Opportunity.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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I take it that the images from the last post were of a low Sun over Gusev Crater?<br /><br />Anyway, last posting on this thread before the great switchover.<br /><br />Mars North Pole, Thursday 21st February 2008.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Earth & Moon imaged by MRO HiRISE from Mars orbit.
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/earthmoon.php

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<p>why is it that life withstand the conditions on mars? is it the temp? atmosphere? if there are ice caps doesnt that mean that there is water, if water exist, cant there be life?</p>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>My favorite is, earth as seen from mars or earth from mars as reported by space dot com. <br /> Posted by fingle</DIV></p><p>How is it Earth from Mars if there is no atmosphere?&nbsp; Was that just takken in space? </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<font color="#993366">"How is it Earth from Mars if there is no atmosphere?&nbsp; Was that just takken in space?"&nbsp;-- RonMaverick</font><br /><br /><font size="2"><p>As Andrew said, this picture was taken by the HiRise camera onboard the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which is orbiting Mars.</p></font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>
 
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<p>"Earth & Moon imaged by MRO HiRISE from Mars orbit." --3488</p><p>BTW, Andrew, thanks for that. It's my new desktop.</p><p>And thanks also for the compliment on my avatar on another thread. It was made from a photograph&nbsp;of the original swampcat, RIP.</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Earth & Moon imaged by MRO HiRISE from Mars orbit.http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/earthmoon.phpAndrew Brown. <br />Posted by 3488</DIV><br /><br />Obviously the Earth must be a popular target for Martian amateur astronomers.&nbsp; ;-) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Replying to:"Earth & Moon imaged by MRO HiRISE from Mars orbit." --3488BTW, Andrew, thanks for that. It's my new desktop.And thanks also for the compliment on my avatar on another thread. It was made from a photograph of the original swampcat, RIP. 
Posted by swampcatYou are more than welcome swampcat. Also thanks for the explanation to the RonMaverick who was confused.MRO is orbiting Mars about 250 kilometres / 155 miles altitude.Also what about the below, the Jupiter MRO HiRISE observation from Mars orbit  in January 2006? Also pretty cool.http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/jupiter.php
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Also here, Earth seen from the surface, predawn by MER A Spirit Sol 63, one hour prior to sunrise. http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05560 Unlabled.http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05547 Labled.
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