Blue Flowers of Mars

[notnek2]

I have to agree with Dub_. What we see is NOT the total reality of what something is. That is the biggest mistake anyone can make- to assume that how we PERCIEVE something is the only way it is.<br />Consider an ant walking next to me on the Gorge Bridge as a truck rumbles by. What I peceive are tiny grains of sand vibrating next to the ant as the bridge vibrates from the passing of the truck. The ant, however, is experiencing a virtual magnitude 12.6 earthquake, with boulders the size of bowling balls being blasted twenty feet in the air! Yet both experiences, and therefore both realities, are only what THEY APPEAR to be, and are only accurate from EACH level of perception. What the ant and I both perceive is real, yet both perceptions are inherently incomplete. To accurately define a given reality one must first establish a frame of reference- the aspects of one level of reality do not necessarily LITERALLY transfer over to another.

 

[kmarinas86]

http://uploads.ungrounded.net/151000/151783_german.swf

 

[extrasense]

--- The ant, however, is experiencing a virtual magnitude 12.6 earthquake, ---<br /><br />With the Internet, we never know if it is an ant we are talking to <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br /><br />es<br />

 

[kmarinas86]

please! Get a GED

 

[notnek2]

I've never seen or heard of an ant communicating on the internet. However, I have watched ants communicate with each other and have found that their natural means of communication operate much faster than the natural means of human communication.<br /><br />I am also a Virgo with Cancer rising, born eight minutes before midnight on the full moon. We are not renowned for our small talk nor our sense of humor. Please address the concepts I pose to you in a straightforward and cogent manner. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Thankyou!<br />notnek2

 

[extrasense]

-----Virgo with Cancer rising----<br /><br />Your crappy images are a joke, athey?<br /><br />e <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> s

 

[notnek2]

Extrasense, do you remember writing these words?<br /><br />Pretty "rocks" happen on Earth, but not that pretty.<br /> <br />Find me a picture of an Earth rock, that would be in the same class with these beauties. Anyone ! <br />-------------------------------------<br /><br />notnek2 reponds:<br /><br />You demanded- I delivered. <br />The images- crappy or not- are very real. No joke!!!.<br />How did you like the image my girlfriend took of the stone labrador??? It'll get up and start walking around any time now! <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />

 

[extrasense]

es--Find me a picture of an Earth rock, that would be in the same class with these beauties. Anyone ! --es<br /><br />Your pictures of crystals, they are taken in the studio with special light. Take the color out, and they lose all their attraction.<br />The picture of Martian flowers is taken casually, and still they are prettier than faked jewels of yours.<br /><br />e <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> s

 

[extrasense]

NASA O'Keefe to resign! <br /><br />Hopefully, the new boss will kick the NASA science team morons out, and we will smell fowers !!!!!!<br /><br />But, he is going to become University Pres! <br />Pseudoscience concervation law to be confirmed <br /><br />http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/politics/10396016.htm <br /><br />es <br /><br />

 

[odysseus145]

extrasense, have you ever read the woo-woo credo? Its very interesting. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[notnek2]

Extrasense wrote:<br /><br />Your pictures of crystals, they are taken in the studio with special light. Take the color out, and they lose all their attraction. <br />The picture of Martian flowers is taken casually, and still they are prettier than faked jewels of yours. <br /><br />notnek2 replies:<br /><br />Apparently you are not familiar with minerals and all the forms they can take. The colors you see in my photographs are the true colors of these minerals. The photos I took were shot from the Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Rocks and Minerals, a book written for rock hounds and minerologists. The photos are taken in true color for field identification purposes and hence look as they appear naturally. <br /><br />Note- only the macro view of the turquoise (my piece) is a gemstone, or as you described a "jewel". All the others are not, for all their natural beauty- they are specimens only.

 

[extrasense]

--- The colors you see in my photographs are the true colors of these minerals. ---<br /><br />They where cleaned and the light optimized. And still they are not pretty.<br /><br />e <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> s<br />

 

[notnek2]

Of course they were cleaned!!! ALL mineral specimens get cleaned- did you think they come out of the ground like that?<br />Photography also requires good lighting- even if it's only a shot of your ant Mabel!!!<br />The photos remain an accurate example of the minerals.<br /><br />It is your right to feel that the pics I took aren't pretty- beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all. Unfortunately I think there is something else at work that is coloring your opinion, and I can't help you there!<br /><br />Minds are like parachutes- they work best when open!!!<br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />notnek2

 

[dub_]

Do you not deny that the Martians would tidy the landing site before it was shown to hundreds of millions of humans? They aren't slobs.<br /><br />This is the level of absurdity you're working on.

 

[extrasense]

-- Do you not deny that the Martians would tidy the landing site before it was shown to hundreds of millions of humans? --<br /><br />Not what I call sense of humor, not at all <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[dub_]

...<br /><br />"This is the level of absurdity you're working on."<br /><br />I wasn't telling a joke, not even giving a hyperbole. I was giving an example.

 

[thechemist]

Of course the martians have cleaned up the landing site. They 're very tidy, you know, they even put a couple of nicely camouflaged flowers to welcome us.<br /><br />However, I think one of the little green servants, the one that took the initiative and cleaned Opportunity's solar panels went overboard, and blew their cover up. <br />What if he forgets his watering can next time in front of the PanCam ?<br />He should be fired <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>I feel better than James Brown.</em> </div>

 

[extrasense]

--- the martians have cleaned up the landing site ---<br /><br />Which "landing site" do you have in mind?<br />I thought the flowers were photographed on Sol 111.<br /><br />e <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> s<br />

 

[thechemist]

According to my sources, they have cleaned and planted flowers on a 50 km radius around both landing sites. In case one of the rovers went ballistic and started to run like crazy <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>I feel better than James Brown.</em> </div>

 

[extrasense]

-- planted flowers --<br /><br />flower plants?<br />

 

[dub_]

What other kinds of flowers are there but flower plants? Ooo I hope I see a rosh bush when they release the new pictures!

 

[ChrisS057]

It looks biological to me, it has a body at the top, which is flattened and a stalk underneath which is supporting it. If it was a rock it would not last very long like that. There is a hole and raised ring around the base of the stalk where the thing has erupted through the ground. I do not believe the colour, I think the false colour photoshop process "equalise" has been used on the image and so it is likely to be slightly green with the red soil all round. There is more than one similar one which again points to biology.<br /><br />Very interesting but not proof.<br /><br />Please post me the official jpl or nasa url so I can look at the original frame.<br /><br />Remember ET like is Heresy to the Christian church and if there is any chance of proof they will get you.<br /><br />Chris.

 

[extrasense]

link to original:<br /><br />http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/111/2P136234439EFF3600P2401L5M1.JPG<br /><br />Christians are not a problem at all.<br />The pseudoscience nutcakes are <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />es<br />

 

[odysseus145]

Click here for a complete debunking of blue flowers on Mars. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[kmarinas86]

LMAO! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />