Can a light photon be frozen by space?

[csmyth3025]

Go back to the cartoon world and leave people to ask their questions.

If you were asking questions, that that would be one thing. I suspect your posts wouldn't be moved in that case.

The statements you make in your posts are totally unscientific, devoid of any proof, and just plain nonsense. It's these characteristics of your statements that result in your posts being moved.

Chris

 

[MeteorWayne]

csmyth, your analysis is 100% correct.

To summarize, garishly colored 2 dimensional drawings on celluloid should not thow acetone ballons

 

[dryson]

If you were asking questions, that that would be one thing. I suspect your posts wouldn't be moved in that case.

The statements you make in your posts are totally unscientific, devoid of any proof, and just plain nonsense. It's these characteristics of your statements that result in your posts being moved.

And what do you think science is? Sitting around waiting for some knowledge to hit you on your head? Science is about asking questions whether or not they are totally unscientific, devoid of any proof or just plain nonsense. If questions are not asked then where do you think answers come from? A god?

 

[drwayne]

Asking questions is in fact what scientists do to start the process of examination!

But....there's more - much more

The detailed work - the math, the experiments, the testing and retesting, the laborious detail* -that is
the real work of the scientist. Finding answers, then subjecting them to tests designed to break them*.
Documenting, writing up (grading papers in there sometimes too). It might take a career's worth of
work to answer one question. Maybe more than one career.

Wayne


*All of which are made possible by ongoing decades of study to understand and master his craft. Reading
a dozen to two popular level science adaptations doesn't get it there. Insisting that math is just details
doesn't either. Sound elitist?

**One of the more obvious differences between a real scientist and someone else is seen in this forum
all the time - people asking others to agree with them are not scientists. People asking what they have
missed, showing their work rather than tossing word salads, asking why something might be wrong, they
are looking for the truth. There's your scientist. He understands you never get closer to the truth by
having someone agree with them - the folks that tell them they are wrong are either right, or in their
wrongness teach them something new about their own ideas.

 

[larper]

if we look farther into the wavelength itself and the particles that make the wavelength up there has to be a point at which these particles will cease to operate at extreme cold temperatures. This would mean that the wavelength would be slowed down during its repition to the point of freezing or becoming less energetically active.

Good lord man! Do you realize what you have done? You have discovered the proof of the existence of the aether! Welcome to the 19th century.

We'll be traveling to Mars on steam powered ships before you know it!!!

 

[Mee_n_Mac]

... the particles that make the wavelength ...

This part should make you think ... WT??? Can I say that there are no particles that make up the wavelength. I have no idea of what you meant by the above other than to envision that somehow the photons travel in a wavy fashion as they go from point A to B. This is not the case nor is it what's implied by describing light using the math of waves or that of particles.

 

[csmyth3025]

... the particles that make the wavelength ...

This part should make you think ... WT??? Can I say that there are no particles that make up the wavelength. I have no idea of what you meant by the above other than to envision that somehow the photons travel in a wavy fashion as they go from point A to B. This is not the case nor is it what's implied by describing light using the math of waves or that of particles.

Dryson,

If you want to understand why the phrase you used is considered incorrect, you need to know that there was a time when a serious debate was ongoing in the scientific community about the nature of light. Some experiments yielded results that indicated light was composed of particles - like a stream of machine gun bullets. Other experiments showed that light acted as if it was composed of waves - like sound waves or waves on the ocean.

In the end, the most satisfactory explanation showed that these competing concepts were both wrong and both right at the same time. Light can be observed to act as a stream of particles in one experiment and the same light can be observed to act as a stream of waves in a differently designed experiment. It behaves differently depending on how it's observed. This is described as wave-particle duality. This idea doesn't say that light is composed of lots of particles (photons) that collectively act as waves - it says that the smallest units of light (quantum of light, or what is commonly referred to as a photon) are both waves and particles.

A good place to start (and a better explanation than I've just given) is the Wikipedia article on wave-particle duality, which can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle-wave_duality

Chris

 

[junkheap]

So you could never "stick" photons together like atoms in a solid, because they're always moving at c relative to each other.

According to this article, maybe you can.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 160623.htm

I'm not sure if such a material would look any different than any other normal material.

 

[csmyth3025]

So you could never "stick" photons together like atoms in a solid, because they're always moving at c relative to each other.

According to this article, maybe you can.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 160623.htm

I'm not sure if such a material would look any different than any other normal material.

There must be a misprint in this linked article:

He says photons of light do not normally interact with each other. In contrast, the electrons used by computers strongly repel each other.

The team has shown theoretically how to engineer a ‘phase transition’ in photons, leading them to change their state so that they do not interact with each other.

Chris