Doctor Who is coming to America!!!

[JonClarke]

Glad you liked it! I recently reacquired a copy and thoroughly enjoyed re-reading it. I find the idea of temporal trade quite fascinating!<br /><br />Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>

 

[zagreus]

Hi all, I've just read this whole thread, some great Who discussion going on, and that is sooo difficult to find! Calli, I am impressed by your vast knowledge given that you are in the US and presumably have had limited access to classic Who. It's nice to find people who are such bigs fans as I am for once!<br /><br />Referring to the earlier discussion, I have to admit that I tend to - rather begrudgingly - ignore the TV movie with regards to canon, it simply contradicts too many established Who conventions.<br /><br />One thing that has been bothering me since the new series began is the concept of the time war destroying Gallifrey and the Time Lords. For those familiar with the extensive 8th doctor novel range, what are your thoughts on the links between the time war and the Doctor's forced destruction of Gallifrey by the Faction Paradox in <i>The Ancestor Cell</i>? Obviously they are not one and the same, as the Daleks had nothing to do with the Faction Paradox's attack on Gallifrey. Also, at the end of <i>The Gallifrey Chronicles</i>, it is suggested that the Doctor intends to rebuild Gallifrey and Time Lord society with his newly acquired knowledge - is he successful in this, and is it therefore this newly rebuilt Gallifrey that was destroyed in the time war? Then of course there is the theory that the various ranges of the 8th Dotor's travels - novels, audios and comic strips - each take place in alternate timelines, as suggested in the audio story <i>Zagreus</i>. In which case, did the 8th Doctor's destruction of Gallifrey actually occur in a different timeline to the time war, and therefore a different timeline to that in which the new series takes place?<br /><br />Any thoughts?<br /><br />

 

[CalliArcale]

Alas, while I am indeed a raving mad Whovian, I stopped reading the novels not terribly long after BBC Books took them back from Virgin. I didn't read any of the Faction Paradox ones.<br /><br />However, evidence from interviews with Russell T Davies and the BBC's general policy towards canon suggests that anything not actually televised is not canon, the telemovie is included in canon (although they seem to be ignoring both the Eye of Harmony and half-human changes), and things raised in the books, while not canon, do inform the writers.<br /><br />So Faction Paradox isn't canon. But that doesn't mean a future episode won't bring them into the canon.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

So, Yankee Whovians, what did you think of "The Parting of the Ways"?<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Did you suspect the identity of the Bad Wolf?<br /><br />What did you think of the Emperor Dalek?<br /><br />Am I the only one who still thinks it's hilarious to see a horde of Daleks screeching "Do not blaspheme! Do not blaspheme!" <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[dragon04]

Don't ster-il-ize me. I missed the episode. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[dragon04]

It's such a shame Eccleston isn't coming back. Tom Baker <b><i>is</i></b> the Doctor and always will be in my mind, but Eccleston made the role his in some ways.<br /><br />He had thet "goofiness" that Baker had, and that disarming smile, but at the bottom, Eccleston acted like a Time <b>Lord</b> at times. Something very dark down inside oozing with unused power.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

It is a real pity. I definitely liked his Doctor. Like all the Doctors, his performance was deep, rich, and unique. You'll like the next one too, fortunately: David Tennant is proving a very capable Doctor in season two. More Tom Bakerish, actually.<br /><br />Random factoid: Chris Eccleston had never seen Doctor Who before he was cast in the part. To prepare himself, he watched the DVD of "Talons of Weng-Chiang", a classic Tom Baker six-parter, and definitely one of my personal favorites. You can definitely see how it informed his performance. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[chriscdc]

You lot are in for a treat with David Tennant though. <br /><br />The most recent ep 'The satans Pit' is by far the best who episode that I've seen. Far more philosophical than the other episodes.

 

[kane007]

Seen the first 3 episodes of this new season so far and starting to warm to Tennant. Loved the Wherewolf and Queen Vic episode! Ninja priests!

 

[CalliArcale]

That was a fantastic episode. I was glued to my seat. "The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit" was not only philosophical, but it was a great horror/suspense story too. And finally it was set on an alien planet that didn't look anything like Earth! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[chriscdc]

Just to say that the Marc Warren (who played Elton in the latest episode) will be playing Mr TeaTime (pronounced Te-ah Tim-eh) in a 4 hour mini-series, of Terry Pratchetts' 'the Hogfather', over christmas.

 

[dragon04]

Sometimes, I'm purely amazed that a Time Lord feels no compunction to change history even to its benefit.<br /><br />I guess that makes The Doctor unique, eh? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[chriscdc]

Apparently, when they set up blatant closed timeline loops, these wierd flying creatures turn up to fix the problem. It was covered in one episode of the first series.

 

[CalliArcale]

I kinda had the opposite question: when is Mickey gonna give up on her and finally dump her? <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Captain Jack will be back -- but not on Doctor Who. He's getting his own series: Torchwood. It is currently in production, and in Season Two, "Torchwood" appears to be the recurring theme. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Just to say that the Marc Warren (who played Elton in the latest episode) will be playing Mr TeaTime (pronounced Te-ah Tim-eh) in a 4 hour mini-series, of Terry Pratchetts' 'the Hogfather', over christmas.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Mr Teatime!!!! AWESOME!!!! That was one of my favorite Discworld books. I greatly look forward to it being released on DVD. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[zagreus]

I have to admit I am greatly disappointed that Captain Jack will not be returning to Doctor Who, and while obviously I can't pass judgement yet on the new Torchwood series, I've got to say the constant references in the new series are really starting to get on my nerves! It just feels as if Davies is trying to plug the new series at every possible opportunity, dropping Torchwood into the scripts even when completely unnecessary and totally irrelevant to the episode in question.<br /><br />With regards to the canon discussion, it seems you are right Calli, however I myself find the view taken by the BBC to be very short-sighted and alienating of true Whovians, after all while we were left for 16 years without any PROPER Who on telly we had to find something to fill the gap, and for many, including myself, the Virgin and later the BBC novels served that purpose - are they now expecting us to just forget everything we read during those dark years without proper Who? Personally I find that very difficult to do, and considering that the BBC themselves were responsible for the later series of books, I can't believe they are so quick to dismiss them. OK, I know the majority of new fans of the new TV series won't have a clue about the novels, and I'm not asking Davies to constantly refer back to them and end up alienating the casual viewer, but to contradict them so blatantly? Sorry for ranting and all, I just felt it is something of a betrayal to devoted fans who used the novels as a guiding light through the years when Doctor Who was off our screens.<br /><br />I like your idea of Faction Paradox appearing in the new series though, that would be awesome! They were a great addition to the novels, and would make interesting adversaries in the TV series.<br /><br />Despite all that though, loving the 2nd series on the whole, Marc Warren was fantastic in Love and Monsters, didn't think much of the monster although Peter Kay was great. By the way, is anyone else picking up on the su

 

[chriscdc]

Well from other sources, as well as precedent, it would appear that the last episode would involve the cybermen.<br />Eg the website for the company that makes the cybermen is advertising a concert that'll be on around the time of the season finale.<br />Oh and rose will die or leave. Personally I didn't like her that much anyway.

 

[chriscdc]

Well I just seen the first half of the season finale. You lot are definately going to like it.

 

[mattblack]

Don't like Rose?? Egad, Sir; you're talking about (the other) woman I love!!<br /><br />Pistols at dawn... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>

 

[ordinary_guy]

A semi-OT bump originally found on CNet...<br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p><b>Talking 'Doctor Who' pen threatens extermination</b><br />July 11, 2006 6:00 AM PDT<br /><br />Amuse yourself and irritate your co-workers with Doctor Who talking pens. The pens are based on the popular and long-lived science fiction show "Doctor Who."<br /><br />The show started back in 1963 and is now on its 10th Doctor, but it still has the same iconic TARDIS spacecraft, as well as that fictional extraterrestrial race of mutants called Daleks. These icons are mirrored on the pens, which are available in both the TARDIS and Dalek styles.<br /><br />As an extra bonus, the pens could easily inspire a round of Abbott and Costello-like "Who's on First?" banter:<br /><br />Annoying co-worker: "Whose pen is that?" (Read: Who's pen, is that?)<br /><br />You: "Yes it is."<br /><br />With enough clever banter like that, you could hear surprisingly loud phrases like "Seek, Locate, Annihilate" and "Exterminate" not only from the black Dalek pen, but from your new ex-friend.<br /><br />The sounds emanating from the blue TARDIS pen are nearly identical to the classic and somewhat cheesy sounds of the "real" TARDIS. Both pens also play the "Doctor Who" theme song. The pens retail for about $12.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />The pen is mightier than... the blaster? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p style="font:normalnormalnormal12px/normalTimes;margin:0px"><strong>Mere precedent is a dangerous source of authority.</strong></p> <p style="font:normalnormalnormal12px/normalTimes;margin:0px">-Andrew Jackson (1767-1845)</p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

Oh, sweet! I have to get some of those! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

<b>Time Lord handed permanent home</b><br /><br />By Nick Dermody<br />BBC Wales news website<br /><br /><i>After centuries of travelling through space and time, Doctor Who has put down some roots...in Wales.<br /><br />The Time Lord has been given a place to park his Tardis full time while his next round of adventures are created.<br /><br />BBC Wales has opened new studios in south Wales so it can accommodate both the sci-fi show and its spin-off series, Torchwood, due this autumn.<br /><br />David Tennant, who plays the Doctor, was even on hand with his trusty sonic screwdriver to help with the opening.<br /><br />The television studio complex is more Pontypridd than Pinewood, situated in Upper Boat, three miles from the town that is better know as the birthplace of Tom Jones.<br /><br />It is the new and permanent home of the BBC's Doctor Who operation, with 80 production staff and up to 400 people involved at the busiest times of the filming schedule.<br /><br />Many of the interiors for the previous two series of Doctor Who were filmed in relatively cramped conditions at a warehouse in Newport, with some scenes shot at ITV Wales' studios in Cardiff.</i><br /><br />Full Story <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

Callie,<br /><br />Looks like you're a real "Who-vian", to borrow the term from Horton hears a Who, and hope it was spelled close to right.<br /><br />Thanks for the info. Henry

 

[djtt]

billie piper!<br /><3

 

[serak_the_preparer]

<i>Don't like Rose?? Egad, Sir; you're talking about (the other) woman I love!! <br /><br />Pistols at dawn...</i><br /><br />Matt, just randomly spotted this over on Google:<br /><br />Billie Piper on drug abuse, anorexia and the day she considered suicide by Emily Maddick (Daily Mail)<br /><br />The girl's been through some rough stuff. Still struggling to figure out life it seems. There's a lot of Billie in Rose (and maybe a little of Rose in Billie?).