Does Maya calendar predict 2012 apocalypse?

[kewell_]

I was reading an article a while ago, and it had mentioned something similar to this. There are some really intersting facts about this theory. I am sure it will be just another Y2K scare though.<br /><br />"On the winter solstice in 2012, the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years. This means that whatever energy typically streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will indeed be disrupted on 12/21/12 at 11:11 p.m. Universal Time."<br /><br />Is something like that even possible or accurate? If so what effects might this have on the earth?<br />

 

[MeteorWayne]

Welcome to SDC. This assertion has been thoroughly addressed in a recent thread...I'll try and find it. Meanwhile, vogon, I need the dead horse animation. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Here it is.... read this thread <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[kewell_]

Thanks, I searched 2012 on the forum but nothing came up.. I had a feeling it might be somehwere

 

[vogon13]

No problem, coming right up:<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[enigma10]

You know.. i have seen the beating a dead horse icon before, but i swear, it looks like a certain part of that horses anatomy is recieving an undue share of attention.<img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"<font color="#333399">An organism at war with itself is a doomed organism." - Carl Sagan</font></em> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

The Y2K 'scare' at least was grounded with <i>some</i> facts. It was a legitimate bug, though slightly over-hyped and greatly over-exaggerated.<br /><br />Predicting an apocalypse through cosmic alignments is pure rubbish. Unless, of course, you can predict a gamma ray burst <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[alokmohan]

These predicitons are common and bogus.

 

[spaceinvador_old]

Well, it will put the end to a long time myth. If the world ends by then, it will happen because of the honey bees disappearing. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[qso1]

alokmohan:<br />These predicitons are common and bogus.<br /><br />Me:<br />I was trying to come up with a reply and saw this one which fits quite well, thanks alokmohan. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Thanx, vogon. Your species has some wonderful attributes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Here's another one... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

You guys are great <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

I think between Vogon and I, we possess about 95% of all of the weird images ever posted here. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

You vastly overestimate my wierd collection, but it's growing <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br />You must have some file structure to find things so quick. <br />So far most of my stuff is in a big pile. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[witgenestone]

Wikipedia has an article on this marvelous and indeed apocalyptic year. Even a summary of some creative apocalyptic predictions. The God of love (or was it lust?) is passing by too. <br /> <br />As an apocalyptical expert I would say that this event: "February 5 — Super Bowl XLVI will be played." Is something that we should seriously worry about.

 

[kauboi]

You got to give some credit to the mayans. They sure did their math homework. The predictions are really really, impressively exact but their interpretation of them is just a matter of how they explained the world around them, just like any othe myth. Their believe was that when the path of the sun aligned with the galaxy's equator is a path to the underworld following a path through the milky way according to their Sacred Tree myths and other similar ones.<br /><br />Myths and legends are pretty interesting, it shows what human creativity is capable of. To the mayan culture, that date is a pretty big deal, for us it would probably be just one more day but we shouldn't dismiss it as a work of challeneged minds with nothing better to do. If anything, they did what every culture does, explain the world and try to find its mysteries, even if takes a lot of work (like it most certainly did for them). Our version of the Sacred Tree myth is science, who knows if a future civilization won't be laughing or be wondered at us when learning that we feared the sun exploding or cooling or that we predicted many asteroid trajectories and meteorites falling to the Earth always in fear and bewilderment of what awaits us out there.

 

[vogon13]

Latest oddity to turn up:<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[vogon13]

By the way, did the Mayan's have the prior benefit of any accurate predictions regarding their own decimation ??<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[GrannyDeepSea]

<p>pardon me, i'm new and was just trying to ask an astronmer a question and i was forced to join something in order to ask, so now i'm asking: first, may i premise with the thought that when the 13th baktun 'just happens' to end with a prediction of the end of the world by fire, due to heaven crashing down on earth -&nbsp;that might be considered an accurate countdown</p><p>....following that theory, consider that the egyptians reported a heavenly benu bird, that burned up and rose from it's own ashes every 500 years...and 500 years after that, the phoenicians said the same thing about the phoenix...and 500 years after that, there is a report of the star of david...and 500 years after that, the morning star of lord buddha (he sat under a stationary viewing point, and said he wouldn't get up until he realized his enlightenment - that very night, he saw the morning star - thurman book on buddhism says he was forced to take action at that time, which buddhas rarely do)...500 years after that was the star of bethlehem, and the calendar was adjusted to the rock....and the bible ends with jesus calling himself the bright and morning star and promising to return...500 years after that, the thunderbird...500 years after that quetzlcoatl...500 years after that was quetzlcoatl again, and in europe albrect durer engraved melencolia i and the rock is outside the window...498 years after that is december 21 2012.......</p><p>i tried to see if the greeks had rumors of the rock, and there was one enigmatic account of a heavenly rock the size of the pelopenesus, but nothing concrete....perhaps they hid the truth for a reason...wouldn't want anarchy, after all!&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>anyway, if this site doesn't notify my email with a link to the thread, i may never learn my answer, so please one of you nice young people, please let me know if i'm wrong and your proof - i'm at justincase14 @ hotmail.com </p><p>here's a peom about the war in heaven, and please feel free to come see me at www.gotpoetry.com&nbsp;- i originally came here to get a factual answer, not to disturb anyone's thread...have a wonderful day</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h1><font size="3">For Scout144Infantry ('The Asteroid' is too long)</font></h1><p>by <font color="#006699">GrannyDeepSea</font><br /><br />Two armies on a battlefield<br />The field above in heaven<br />Where Andromeda and Milky Way<br />Are destined to collide<br />One fine warrior called Ari<br />By his questions Earthbound driven<br />Leaves the millions of companions<br />Firmly stationed by his side<br />His star body still in heaven<br />Krisna beckoning at his side<br />From the war he must not hide.<br /><br />Ari felt good in the human form<br />His body made for babies<br />And for losers of the battle<br />On the Kuruksetra field<br />Why not bypass all the fighting<br />Watching deaths of kindred starlights<br />Why not stay here with the babies<br />Blessed Krisna would not yield<br />Get yourself back to the battle<br />Where your fate is firmly sealed<br />To the heavenly battlefield.<br /><br />Ari took the opportunity<br />With Krisna there beside him<br />To ask questions he had pondered<br />In his alter ego state<br />Since it rarely ever happens<br />That He takes a human body<br />Krisna looked at Ari face to face<br />And started to relate<br />All the answers to his questions<br />Both preparing to debate<br />Ari's future heavenly fate.<br /><br />Krisna feeling somewhat trapped<br />Inside the body He was fixed in<br />Nevertheless took pause to ponder<br />The sensations of His form<br />Human bodies with their perks<br />Provide a temporary respite<br />From the oneness He's so used to<br />Separation's not His norm<br />Chatting here with good son Ari<br />Feeling comfortably warm<br />Human bodies have their charm.<br /><br />Ari begged again to know<br />The reason why he was required<br />To engage his friends in battle<br />When he could be living here<br />His superior mind could offer<br />Precious insights to the babies<br />Separated from the battle<br />Thus protected from the fear<br />And the consequence of warfare<br />Krisna whispered in his ear<br />You will bring the battle here.<br /><br />Krisna knew of all the problems<br />That a star outside of body<br />Living here upon a planet<br />Could quite possibly engage<br />Thus aware He stated firmly<br />To the warrior soul residing<br />In the body made for babies<br />There beside Him in the cage<br />Understanding the desire<br />And His son's ensuing rage<br />At being ordered to the stage.<br /><br />Ari then began to question<br />Krisna's former whispered comment<br />And the consequence of bringing battle<br />To this hallowed place<br />Disbelieving his companion<br />Was against his better judgment<br />Yet he couldn't see how he<br />Could thus ensnare the human race<br />How could any join in battle<br />In this garden of a place<br />Krisna answered in His grace.<br /><br />You cannot yet comprehend <br />The complications of existence<br />Seeking only here the freedom<br />You're not used to as a star<br />Life on Earth holds hidden battles<br />Long left sleeping since creation<br />To awaken those sad spirits<br />Is like poking at a scar<br />In the box they call Pandora<br />Leave them resting as they are<br />Ari, get back to your star.<br /><br />Twasn't Ari who then opened up<br />The scar left since creation<br />There was someone there beside them<br />Waking up because they came<br />How could two such perfect beings<br />Come to wallow here in Hades<br />Thus awakening individuals<br />I do not care to name<br />We were sleeping here quite soundly<br />Til the two of you here came<br />Now you've got yourselves to blame.<br /><br />Krisna tingling all over<br />In His body made for sensing<br />Knew exactly whom they'd wakened<br />And the price they'd have to pay<br />From the war before creation<br />Before Time was ever thought of<br />From the Chaos that required Creation<br />To keep it at bay<br />They'd awakened ancient minions<br />Krisna knew He'd have to stay<br />Here remaining to this day.<br /><br />All the suffering and sadness <br />That you witness all around you<br />Every conflict ever thought <br />To be decided by a war<br />Has resulted from the time<br />Big Brother Ari came from heaven<br />Breaching long forgotten walls<br />As if he'd opened up the door<br />Of the box known as Pandora<br />To this day his soul is sore<br />Having instigated war.<br /><br />We can stop the current madness<br />We do not have to accept it<br />It's not easy, but the things worth doing<br />Very rarely are<br />We can realize the problem<br />Has resulted from a brother<br />Who originally came here<br />To escape the hell of war<br />Let's awaken to the God within<br />And change the way we are<br />Once again, we'll mend the scar. </p>

 

[Smersh]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#993300">Here it is.... read this thread <br /> Posted by meteorwayne</font></DIV></p><p>Hi MW, not sure if you forgot to put the link (or it's a Pluck glitch,) but I think the thread you mean is this one:&nbsp;</p><p> 2012 </p><p>Anyway, I did read through quite a bit of that thread over at Uplink (although I didn't post in it) and I remember you making a comment about the Solar System being aligned with the centre of the galaxy in 1999.</p><p>I've been trying to find a reliable website to confirm that, as I'm trying to debunk this 2012 nonsense over on another board. So far though, I've been unable to find anything concrete. Do you, or anyone have any links at all please? Cheers.</p><p>I have pointed out btw, that there will be a Solar Max in 2012, but we've had plenty of Solar Maxes in the past (are they about every 25 years or so? Not sure.) and we are all still here ... </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1><p><font color="#800000"><em>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea."<br />Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."</em></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Website / forums </strong></font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi MW, not sure if you forgot to put the link (or it's a Pluck glitch,) but I think the thread you mean is this one:&nbsp; 2012 Anyway, I did read through quite a bit of that thread over at Uplink (although I didn't post in it) and I remember you making a comment about the Solar System being aligned with the centre of the galaxy in 1999.I've been trying to find a reliable website to confirm that, as I'm trying to debunk this 2012 nonsense over on another board. So far though, I've been unable to find anything concrete. Do you, or anyone have any links at all please? Cheers.I have pointed out btw, that there will be a Solar Max in 2012, but we've had plenty of Solar Maxes in the past (are they about every 25 years or so? Not sure.) and we are all still here ... &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by Smersh</DIV></p><p>Thanx for picking up the missing link...don't know where the problem was ...</p><p>If I gave the date of 1999, it was most likely based on my SkyMapPro software, which is highly accurate. So no link, just the facts </p><p>The solar cycle is between 22 and 23 years, BTW.</p><p>Wayne</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[duck_theory]

<p>What if funny about all these claims - the ones that try to sound scientific about their theories of something happening - is that they sound logical until the "buzz word" or phrase. In this case, it is the "energy" that will somehow "influence" us. But as to what this nonesence actually means is any ones' guess (it doesn't mean anything, because it is a 'leap of faith'.</p><p>It is the same with any new age stuff.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="font-style:italic" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="color:#c0c0c0" class="Apple-style-span">It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.</span></span> </div>

 

[qso1]

I like terms like "Energy circles" or one from RHC, "Hyperdimensional physics". Terms that seem to be designed to make it appear the people using them are somehow in the know about mysterious workings...hmmm, maybe "Mysterious workings" should be incorporated into apocalyptic prediction scenarios. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[DengarReturns]

<p>um...</p><p>yeeah.&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>