Phoenix Mars Lander Extended Mission. Sol 90+ & R.I.P Sol 157.

bobble_bob · Nov 10, 2008

There is a teleconference at 4pm ET tonight. The link to the press release is dead at the moment thoEdit: MeteorWayne beat me to it. i too was thinking is this the end

MeteorWayne · Nov 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>There is a teleconference at 4pm ET tonight. The link to the press release is dead at the moment thoEdit: MeteorWayne beat me to it. i too was thinking is this the end

Posted by bobble_bob</DIV> By 38 seconds I beat ya

<div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

MeteorWayne · Nov 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>By 38 seconds I beat ya

Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV> http://www.nasa.gov/news/media/newsaudio/index.html <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

bobble_bob · Nov 10, 2008

Cheers Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bobble_bob · Nov 10, 2008

"The successful investigation of the Martian arctic by NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander has come to an end. Mission engineers stopped receiving signals from the lander and believe its batteries have been depleted. In recent weeks, the spacecraft faced shorter periods of daylight, dustier skies, and colder temperature that caused power supplies to diminish. Eventually, the amount of energy needed to operate the spacecraft exceeded the amount it could generate. Phoenix exceeded its planned operational life of 90 days, and returned scientific data for more than five months. "Taken from nasa sapceflight. Thats the description of the video file Nasa are replaying <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

MeteorWayne · Nov 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>"The successful investigation of the Martian arctic by NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander has come to an end. Mission engineers stopped receiving signals from the lander and believe its batteries have been depleted. In recent weeks, the spacecraft faced shorter periods of daylight, dustier skies, and colder temperature that caused power supplies to diminish. Eventually, the amount of energy needed to operate the spacecraft exceeded the amount it could generate. Phoenix exceeded its planned operational life of 90 days, and returned scientific data for more than five months. "Taken from nasa sapceflight. Thats the description of the video file Nasa are replaying Posted by bobble_bob</DIV> <br /

The audio link is now active... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

MeteorWayne · Nov 10, 2008

Phoenix has expired, last contact on Nov 5th..

Thank you for a great mission. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

bobble_bob · Nov 10, 2008

Mission officially over, but they will still listen for a signal <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

JonClarke · Nov 10, 2008

RIP Phoenix. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars Arthur Clarke </div>

MeteorWayne · Nov 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>RIP Phoenix. Posted by jonclarke</DIV> Yes, we luv'd ya..They said there will be upcoming articles in SCIENCE Magazine (I expect a dedicated issue) and to be honest I suspect we will be reading about analysis of these observations for a half dozen years or more. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

3488 · Nov 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yes, we luv'd ya..They said there will be upcoming articles in SCIENCE Magazine (I expect a dedicated issue) and to be honest I suspect we will be reading about analysis of these observations for a half dozen years or more. Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV>Missed it as my computer decided it did not like the audio link for some reason, crashed & rebooted.I did think that was what the news would be.There will be tons of new articles, etc. I'm sure there will be a dedicate SCIENCE issue. There's tons of material returned. We've only seen a tiny fraction of what was returned. Sure all of the iamges have been posted in raw form, but the full colour & multispectral pans, closeups & microscope images, will be stunning when completed, full MET station, TEGA & MECA reports, it's going to be absolutely awesome.I am quite upset at this loss as being personally involved as an outsider from the hard won beginnings of the Phoenix mission. A real Phoenix rose from the ashes of Mars Polar Lander in 1999. But I,m not disappointed though, she has done a superb job. She lived up to her name in full.Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Mission officially over, but they will still listen for a signal Posted by bobble_bob</DIV>Phoenix was hoped to had resumed a slower paced mission from Sol 155, but that never happened & today is Sol 165, with no news till now, no new science, no new images, I did think this was it, mission over.I am really quite sad to see Phoenix go. I was there at the bitter start involved with the campaign to get her to Mars after the cancellation of the Mars Surveyor 2001 Lander, in the wake of the Mars Polar Lander loss in 1999 & threat of the permanent mothballing of the lander, that eventually became the Phoenix Mars Lander.I am really quite sad actually, but not disappointed, in fact the exact opposite. Assuming a successful EDL, we hoped for 90 Sols & got 151 (149 active Sols, one lost due to the MRO not relaying Sol 27 but sol 27 was recovered later & one lost due to an earlier safing event Sol 23). Phoenix continued to send weak signals from Sol 152 to Sol 157 when she finally succumbed. The mission did exceed by a very large margin, what was required & now we have a wealth of data that needs to be properly analyzed.Whilst we hope that Lazarus will kick in again, I think the reality of the situation is that we have heard the last from Phoenix. Whether or not she talks to us again, approx a year from now, is anyone's wild guess.In fact the writing was on the wall with this Sol 151 image clearly showing a layer of frost forming BEFORE sunset. This image, one of the very last returned by Phoenix was visiual proof of rapidly falling temperatures & deteriorating conditions. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/7/291991d4-d92a-4a61-a77e-ee360feeaccf.Medium.jpg" alt="" />  NASA has just put this notification up. I hope that the MRO HiRISE will look upon Phoenix from time to time now, to see what happens over the next year or so. R.I.P Phoenix.  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/6/37ee8f20-b708-4c36-a65e-b8e3e2fe8b2c.Medium.gif" alt="" />   <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/6/37ee8f20-b708-4c36-a65e-b8e3e2fe8b2c.Medium.gif" alt="" />   <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/6/37ee8f20-b708-4c36-a65e-b8e3e2fe8b2c.Medium.gif" alt="" />    <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/6/37ee8f20-b708-4c36-a65e-b8e3e2fe8b2c.Medium.gif" alt="" />    <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/6/37ee8f20-b708-4c36-a65e-b8e3e2fe8b2c.Medium.gif" alt="" /> Sunday 2nd November 2008, final transmission.Andrew Brown.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

earth_bound_misfit · Nov 10, 2008

All good things must come to an end <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif" border="0" alt="Frown" title="Frown" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?Go here to see how: SDC Eye saver </div>

abq_farside · Nov 10, 2008

RIP Phoenix - I will hope for the unlikely event of it awakening in the spring <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Don't let who you are keep you from becoming who you want to be! </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Nov 10, 2008

While I feel a twinge of sadness, I think it's more like the loss of a friend .... who lived to be 115 years old (despite having been pronounced DOA at birth), driving his Ferrari until the day he died in bed with a supermodel.  We all have to go at some point, it's how you lived that matters.  Phoenix lived a good life.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

JonClarke · Nov 11, 2008

And the usual Phoenix haters are out & commenting on the SDC story.  Don't these people  ever learn?  I note that none of them come here to the forums.But the majority of comments have been positive, which is an improvement on previous occasions. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars Arthur Clarke </div>

3488 · Nov 11, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>And the usual Phoenix haters are out & commenting on the SDC story.  Don't these people  ever learn?  I note that none of them come here to the forums.But the majority of comments have been positive, which is an improvement on previous occasions. Posted by jonclarke</DIV>  Hi Jon, thjat's very true unfortunately. Generally it is a big improvement, later I will go over there & remind posters to stay on topic, though a few have which is good, but a few have crossed the line into trolling territory. I'm just not in the mood right now to knock heads together.Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before". Linda Morabito on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.http://www.launchphotography.com/ http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearthhttp://web.me.com/meridianijournal </div>

JonClarke · Nov 11, 2008

What sort of authority do you have to do so?  I though comments were pretty much a free  for all.Wht I find odd is that there are some people there who have made multiple posts on multiple new stories, but have not actually read them (otherwise they would not have said the things they say).  they also can be bothered registering but don't seem to be bothered contributing to the forum.As for cracking heads, I think I did that.  I tried to respond at work, but the work system would not let me on. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars Arthur Clarke </div>

efron_24 · Nov 11, 2008

It seems the Lander is silent..and there is nothing we can doWhat a sad day it is ! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

MeteorWayne · Nov 11, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> Hi Jon, thjat's very true unfortunately. Generally it is a big improvement, later I will go over there & remind posters to stay on topic, though a few have which is good, but a few have crossed the line into trolling territory. I'm just not in the mood right now to knock heads together.Andrew Brown. Posted by 3488</DIV> I wouldn't worry about in Andrew. Jon did a fine job, leaving me not much more than 2 cents to add

<div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

bobble_bob · Nov 11, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>It seems the Lander is silent..and there is nothing we can doWhat a sad day it is ! Posted by efron_24</DIV>I was thinking how sad this is, but then during the conference one of the guys said lets celebrate the landers achievements. We all knew this day was coming, but the mission has given us to much information and clues about the surface of Mars that its hard to get sad about it <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

efron_24 · Nov 12, 2008

The best things for me was the detection of falling snow and the amazing images of the moving cloudsOf course I am sad.. and happyit is as if an old grandparent dies..you are sad because it is overbut you are glad because of the wonderful momentsbut it is ok to cry.. and I did  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

JonClarke · Nov 12, 2008

Given the incredibly ignorant and prejudiced comments on the last few SDC Phoenix stories I am going to start two in Phoenix threads.One will be in M&L and will be called "Was Phoenix a waste?"I will list the common objections and then we can respond to them.  I will also post links to it in various SDC story comments.The other will be in SS&A, called "Phoenix Science Results".  here we can post links to conferences with Phoenix results and discuss them.  I/we can also link to these in comments.  Since thye Phoenix haters seem to thik that so science was done, this might bring a few in.Jon <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars Arthur Clarke </div>

MeteorWayne · Nov 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Given the incredibly ignorant and prejudiced comments on the last few SDC Phoenix stories I am going to start two in Phoenix threads.One will be in M&L and will be called "Was Phoenix a waste?"I will list the common objections and then we can respond to them.  I will also post links to it in various SDC story comments.The other will be in SS&A, called "Phoenix Science Results".  here we can post links to conferences with Phoenix results and discuss them.  I/we can also link to these in comments.  Since thye Phoenix haters seem to thik that so science was done, this might bring a few in.Jon Posted by jonclarke</DIV> Good idea jon, I look forward to reading and participating!MW <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id. I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function </div>

stupidlaminatedrock · Mar 4, 2009

Re: Phoenix Mars Lander Extended Mission. Sol 90+ & R.I.P Sol 15

Do not forget folks. In May the Lander (if it survived) will attempt to contact earth.

There is a tiny tiny chance it will. But the capability is there. The onboard communication M&C control are in a safe mode. But more than likely, at -200f Circuitry will not withstand the cold. The Lander is probably encased in a foot of ice right now.

Im crossing my finger.

stupidlaminatedrock · Mar 4, 2009

Re: Phoenix Mars Lander Extended Mission. Sol 90+ & R.I.P Sol 15

Do not forget folks. In May the Lander (if it survived) will attempt to contact earth.

There is a tiny tiny chance it will. But the capability is there. The onboard communication M&C control are in a safe mode. But more than likely, at -200f Circuitry will not withstand the cold. The Lander is probably encased in a foot of ice right now.

Im crossing my finger.

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