Forbidden Planet 1956

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docm

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If not the best it's in a tie with "The Day the Earth Stood Still" <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />I loved "Forbidden Planet" the first time I saw it, which was a drive in double feature with "Run Silent, Run Deep". <br /><br /><b>Factoid:</b> Robert Wise directed "Forbidden Planet" along with "The Day the Earth Stood Still", "Run Silent, Run Deep", "The Haunting", "Andromeda Strain", "West Side Story", "The Sound of Music" and the first "Star Trek". <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Those who know my postings will verify I have mentioned these as the top two repeatedly.<br /><br />The Forbidden Planet 50th Anniversery edition DVD is sweet.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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jmilsom

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Hi. Jim to see discussion of Forbidden Planet, and a whole whole of great and atrociously bad movies - check out this thread! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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qso1

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I thought the best sci fi movie was "Attack of the killer tomatoes" LOL! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>
 
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<font color="yellow">"Factoid: Robert Wise directed "Forbidden Planet" ... "West Side Story"...</font><br /><br /><br />West Side Story has been playing on PBS the last month or so.<br /><br />And if you ask me, this movie is unintentionally hilarious. There are numerous campy scenes - starting with Natalie Wood's lame attempts at a spanish accent. Her and Rita Moreno even sing with a spanish accent. Its too much !!
 
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yevaud

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Robbie the Robot: "Ah, Doctor Morbius..." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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It was directed by Fred Wilcox. Check the Wiki link in the first post. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!!  LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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I haven't finished watching the 2nd disc of the FP 50th edition yet, when Robbie was the star. When I have time (????) I will let you know what it's like.<br /><br />For those who doubt my allegience to the film, note my sigline <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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?? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Google it.<br /><br />It's one of Freud's parts of the mind. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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christine16

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MeteorWayne if you don't know, then admit it and stick it
 
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christine16

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but I dont know, and reply is use g<br /><br />so who is hostile?
 
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MeteorWayne

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Not me. <br />Because it's complicated to explain, my reply (very short, as are all of your posts) was intended to indicate that if you wanted to learn more, you're going to have to look it up yourself. There's a space shuttle launch tomorrow, and I can't type from now until then to explain Freud's view of the mind to you. If you want to learn, you have to do a little work on your own, too. I am happy to see you imvolved in a real conversation.<br /><br />BTW, the Monster's From the Id, if not explicity spoken, is a Shakesperean theme as well.<br /><br />"The Tempest", IIRC<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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docm

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Forbidden Planets characters and some settings were inspired by The Tempest.<br /><br />Prospero = Morbius<br />Miranda = Altaira<br />Ariel = Monster from the Id<br />Caliban = Robby the Robot<br /><br />to a lesser degree;<br /><br />Ferdinand = Commander Adams<br />Stephano + Trinculo = Cookie<br />Gonzalo = "Doc" Ostrow<br /><br />etc. <br /><br />HMS Bellerophon took Napoleon to his final exile, just as Morbius was taken to his unintended exile by a ship of the same name.<br /><br />Bellerophon was a Greek hero struck down by the gods for the crime of hubris in trying to reach Olympian heights, just like Morbius.<br /><br />etc. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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christine16

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what I am pointing at:<br /><br />so "Monster from the Id " is name?<br /><br />or this Id in the story has meaning?
 
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yevaud

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While I usually don't trust Wiki to be accurate, this is a pretty good summary of the movie. It'll explain all for you:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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I repeat, use Yevaud's link to the movie, for an explanation about the plot. For an explanationof what the Id is, you'll have to look it up. crazyeddie and I have already told you, but apparently in too many words. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Christine 16,<br /><br />While I do not want to get in the middle of this active discussion going on here, I do want to ask a question. Have you ever seen the movie yet? And if so, did you consider what Morbius was saying about his beloved Krell? <br /><br />To really understand what is going on here in this thread and this whole discussion board is get personally get involved with the subject matter. Forbidden Planet is such a great movie that we all grew up on, and then went on to other passions. During those life experience and learning times, we have found out many things mentioned in these great classic movies.<br /><br />Morbius, if you haven't found out by now, found out there are two sides to every life, and if you take away or put out of balance one side, the other side will take over. He said the Krell destroyed themselves in a night by doing just such a thing.<br /><br />There are highly educated people, people with much experience, and others that come here to enjoy themselves and shed some of those things. But it would do well to explore some links they offer and gain an explaination not already had. There are also old sayings that use such buzz words as we are talking about, that would make much more sense if you know what was being said.<br /><br />But like I said, I do not want to get between any of you and your polite conversations you are having. This thread is about a GREAT movie with some great people in it. View it, enjoy it, and even learn a little from it.
 
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The Id is that part of the unconscious mind that contains all of the drives and everything repressed by the conscious mind. All of your dark impulses. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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Sigh..<br /><br />"ID. The id is the great reservoir of the libido, from which the ego seeks to distinguish itself through various mechanisms of repression. Because of that repression, the id seeks alternative expression for those impulses that we consider evil or excessively sexual, impulses that we often felt as perfectly natural at an earlier or archaic stage and have since repressed. The id is governed by the pleasure-principle and is oriented towards one's internal instincts and passions. Freud also argues on occasion that the id represents the inheritance of the species, which is passed on to us at birth; and yet for Freud the id is, at the same time, "the dark, inaccessible part of our personality" ("New Introductory Lectures" 22.328). See also Freud Module I on psychosexual development. "<br /><br />"<br /> <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br />Freud came to see personality as having three aspects, which work together to produce all of our complex behaviours: the Id, the Ego and the Superego. All 3 components need to be well-balanced in order to have good amount of psychological energy available and to have reasonable mental health.<br /><br />However, the Ego has a difficult time dealing with the competing demands of the Superego and the Id. According to the psychoanalytic view, this psychological conflict is an intrinsic and pervasive part of human experience. The conflict between the Id and Superego, negotiated by the Ego, is one of the fundamental psychological battles all people face. The way in which a person characteristically resolves the instant gratification vs. longer-term reward dilemma in many ways comes to reflect on their "character".<br /><br /> <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />THE ID (“Itâ€): functions in the irrational and emotional part of the mind. At birth a baby’s mind is all Id - want want want. The Id is the pr <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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