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<strong><font size="2">Something I've always wondered about and perhaps you know the answer: The classic 1956 movie <em>Forbidden Planet</em>. MGM spent some money on that one, saved the costumes, props, Robby the Robot and even some of the sets. It did alright at the box office and the critics were impressed. Why no sequel? That one begged for a sequel!</font></strong> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p>A <em>Forbidden Planet </em>remake is scheduled for 2010/2011.</p><p>Joel Silver (The Matrix, Logans Run [sounds to follow the novel, not the 1st movie], V for Vendetta and the coming Sherlock Holmes, Wonder Woman and others) is set to produce. J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, The Changeling and many others) is said to be the director and deep into tech prep with AI types, astrophysicists etc.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Something I've always wondered about and perhaps you know the answer: The classic 1956 movie Forbidden Planet. MGM spent some money on that one, saved the costumes, props, Robby the Robot and even some of the sets. It did alright at the box office and the critics were impressed. Why no sequel? That one begged for a sequel! <br />Posted by jim48</DIV><br /><br />A remake of a remake.</p><p>I don't think Shakespear made a sequel to the tempest.</p><p>Cracking film, love the monster trying to break through the energy barrier. Was educating a young collegue about the goldern age of Sci-Fi the other day and it was one of the scenes I YouTubed as a demonstration.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>
 
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<p>Yeah...that was a good scene.&nbsp; At 7-8 years old & seeing it up close on a big screen it had me and my friends yelling "oh s**t" and almost wetting our pants <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" /></p><p>Did you know that Disney's animators did that scene? </p><p><font color="#800000"><strong>UPDATE:</strong></font>&nbsp; <strong><em>GAWD</em>...did I ever miss something in my messages!!!! </strong></p><p>IESB and Latino Review, both well connected sources, are reporting that&nbsp; J. Michael&nbsp; Straczynski is now the <em>screenwriter</em> and a&nbsp; new person is interested in directing (drumroll).......</p><p><strong>James Cameron</strong></p><p>It's also said the story will be extended to cover the Bellerophon incident. It could also be a trilogy. </p><p><font color="#800000"><strong>OMG</strong></font> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/6/86220a2b-8596-4caa-b649-95480d354698.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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JonClarke

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<p>Why do a remake?&nbsp; It will not be as good as the original.&nbsp; They never are.</p><p>Why no sequel?&nbsp; What would it be about?&nbsp; What's left unresolved, unexplored?</p><p>I've a good idea.&nbsp; Let';s remake all the classics.&nbsp; After all, what did they know?&nbsp; </p><p>Jon</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>
 
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jim48

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<strong><font size="2">I wasn't asking about a re-make. Why didn't they do a follow-on back in the '50s? Like <em>Star</em> <em>Trek</em> there were unlimited stories for them to do.</font></strong> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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docm

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<p>If you believe Gene Roddenberry in his biography Star Trek <strong><em>was</em></strong> the follow on....even if not by MGM and using different names etc. </p><p>Think about it: a high-testosterone captain with a ships physician as a sidekick and an engineer who can cannibalize parts to make anything. Phaser (blaster) side arms too. Only thing missing is a Vulcan first officer. </p><p>He even did a similar, <em>Tempest</em> based story in the 3rd season episode "Requiem for Methuselah".</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I wasn't asking about a re-make. Why didn't they do a follow-on back in the '50s? Like Star Trek there were unlimited stories for them to do. <br />Posted by jim48</DIV></p><p>Again, why bother?&nbsp; What aspect of the story was left untold that is of importance?</p><p>Jon<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>
 
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JonClarke

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If you believe Gene Roddenberry in his biography Star Trek was the follow on....even if not by MGM and using different names etc. Think about it: a high-testosterone captain with a ships physician as a sidekick and an engineer who can cannibalize parts to make anything. Phaser (blaster) side arms too. Only thing missing is a Vulcan first officer. He even did a similar, Tempest based story in the 3rd season episode "Requiem for Methuselah". <br />Posted by docm</DIV></p><p>Except of course that <em>Forbidden Planet</em> is NOT based on <em>The Tempest</em> and is a very different story from it at almost every way.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>
 
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<strong><font size="2">I would say that <em>Forbidden Planet</em> is <em>loosely </em>based upon <em>The Tempest</em>, <em>Star Trek</em> owes a lot to <em>Forbidden Planet</em>--as does <em>Lost in Space</em>--but I'd really like to know why they didn't do another movie with that cast say like, two years after the release of the original. That would have been a studio--MGM--decision. Also, decades ago at a <em>Star Trek</em> con a friend of mine in-the-know revealed that the Disney animation in <em>Forbidden Planet</em> was not entirely complete--the ID monster attacking the ship--due to time constraints and budget problems.</font></strong> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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ZenGalacticore

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Something I've always wondered about and perhaps you know the answer: The classic 1956 movie Forbidden Planet. MGM spent some money on that one, saved the costumes, props, Robby the Robot and even some of the sets. It did alright at the box office and the critics were impressed. Why no sequel? That one begged for a sequel! <br />Posted by jim48</DIV><br /><br />How about "Destination Moon", Jim? Based on a Heinlein story, 1954. So bad it's great!</p><p>BTW, there has been a lot written about 'Forbidden Planet' basing it's theme on 'The Tempest'.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>ZenGalacticore</p> </div>
 
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ZenGalacticore

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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Why do a remake?&nbsp; It will not be as good as the original.&nbsp; They never are.Why no sequel?&nbsp; What would it be about?&nbsp; What's left unresolved, unexplored?I've a good idea.&nbsp; Let';s remake all the classics.&nbsp; After all, what did they know?&nbsp; Jon <br />Posted by jonclarke</DIV><br /><br />Why clean your house? It's just going to get dirty again. :) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>ZenGalacticore</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I would say that Forbidden Planet is loosely based upon The Tempest, Star Trek owes a lot to Forbidden Planet--as does Lost in Space--but I'd really like to know why they didn't do another movie with that cast say like, two years after the release of the original. That would have been a studio--MGM--decision. Also, decades ago at a Star Trek con a friend of mine in-the-know revealed that the Disney animation in Forbidden Planet was not entirely complete--the ID monster attacking the ship--due to time constraints and budget problems. <br /> Posted by jim48</DIV></p><p>Well, they blew the planet up in the movie. Not much room for a sequel there. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Well, they blew the planet up in the movie. Not much room for a sequel there. <br />Posted by dragon04</DIV><br /><br />That's correct. Altair 4 was destroyed, as were the monsters from the Id.</p><p>For some reason, I'm not sure about Robby, I think he might have been saved. Unfortunately, due to a new piece of furniture coming in tomorrow, I can't watch the DVD until at least Thursday....</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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flynn

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<p>A lot of the props including the ship and Robby were reused in The Twilight Zone</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>That's correct. Altair 4 was destroyed, as were the monsters from the Id.For some reason, I'm not sure about Robby, I think he might have been saved. Unfortunately, due to a new piece of furniture coming in tomorrow, I can't watch the DVD until at least Thursday.... <br />Posted by <strong>MeteorWayne</strong></DIV><br /><br />I thought Robby became the new Astrogator (astro navigator) for the C-57D. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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docm

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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I thought Robby became the new Astrogator (astro navigator) for the C-57D. <br /> Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV><br />Correct. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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JonClarke

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Why clean your house? It's just going to get dirty again. :) <br />Posted by ZenGalacticore</DIV></p><p>Housework is neccessary.&nbsp; Remakes are not.&nbsp; They are indicators of the creative atrophy and parasitism of much of&nbsp;the movie industry.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Whether we become a multi-planet species with unlimited horizons, or are forever confined to Earth will be decided in the twenty-first century amid the vast plains, rugged canyons and lofty mountains of Mars</em>  Arthur Clarke</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Housework is neccessary.&nbsp; Remakes are not.&nbsp; They are indicators of the creative atrophy and parasitism of much of&nbsp;the movie industry. <br />Posted by jonclarke</DIV><br /><br />I agree. And most remakes suck. I hope the new 'Star Trek' film based on the original characters and stories doesn't suck, but it probably will suck.</p><p>'creative atrophy and parasitism', couldn't have said it better myself.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>ZenGalacticore</p> </div>
 
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ZenGalacticore

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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Well, they blew the planet up in the movie. Not much room for a sequel there. <br />Posted by dragon04</DIV><br /><br />hehe. Good one Drag! I think part of what Jim's talking about is that 'Forbidden Planet' was the first mainstream Hollywood Sci-fi production that dealt with 'warp drive'. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>ZenGalacticore</p> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I thought Robby became the new Astrogator (astro navigator) for the C-57D. <br />Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV><br /><br />I thought so too, just wasn't 100% sure.</p><p>IIRC, the twilight zone episode used Robby's outer body, with with different head internal parts.</p><p>Bar-ba-ra! Get me my ho choc-o-late!</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Why do a remake?&nbsp; It will not be as good as the original.&nbsp; They never are.Why no sequel?&nbsp; What would it be about?&nbsp; What's left unresolved, unexplored?I've a good idea.&nbsp; Let';s remake all the classics.&nbsp; After all, what did they know?&nbsp; Jon <br /> Posted by jonclarke</DIV></p><p>I think a <span style="font-weight:bold" class="Apple-style-span">prequel</span> would be more in order, perhaps starting with Edward Morbius's shipboard romance on the Bellerophon with his shipmate, biochemist Julia Marston. &nbsp;Their landing and discovery of the Krell relics, followed by Morbius's reckless use of the Krell "plastic educator" device that permanently increases his intellectual capacities and, unbeknownst to him, endows his subconscious mind with the ability to operate the Great Machine. &nbsp;The subsequent murders of his fellow shipmates by the Monster from the Id would make for a very suspenseful story, and they could wrap it up with the death of Morbius's wife and him being left alone with an infant child to raise, on a lonely, mournful planet, surrounded by the ghosts of the Krell and his murdered shipmates, tormented by the subconscious knowledge of the role he played in their demise......yeah, that would work!</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I think a prequel would be more in order, perhaps starting with Edward Morbius's shipboard romance on the Bellerophon with his shipmate, biochemist Julia Marston. &nbsp;Their landing and discovery of the Krell relics, followed by Morbius's reckless use of the Krell "plastic educator" device that permanently increases his intellectual capacities and, unbeknownst to him, endows his subconscious mind with the ability to operate the Great Machine. &nbsp;The subsequent murders of his fellow shipmates by the Monster from the Id would make for a very suspenseful story, and they could wrap it up with the death of Morbius's wife and him being left alone with an infant child to raise, on a lonely, mournful planet, surrounded by the ghosts of the Krell and his murdered shipmates, tormented by the subconscious knowledge of the role he played in their demise......yeah, that would work! <br />Posted by crazyeddie</DIV><br /><br />That's a great idea ce, and might even be worth watching! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Mee_n_Mac

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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>That's a great idea ce, and might even be worth watching! <br />Posted by <strong>MeteorWayne</strong></DIV><br /><br />I second the idea.&nbsp; Quick, someone call Hollywood ! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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