Gravitons, String Theory and Electro-Magnetism

[j_rankin]

I think pressure is a result of gravity - not the other way around.<br /><br />What the CERN particle accelerator is hoping to find is proof of the existence of the Graviton. Should they find one, then it will be strong evidence for string theory.<br /><br />A graviton is supposedly a string of energy - an energy vibration responsible for the occurance of gravity. The holy grail of quantum physics.

 

[jatslo]

I said gravity and pressure are the same animal, and not an effect in either case. A pressure wave and a gravity wave are the same animal. The pressure wave that is released in particle annihilation is, in fact, not the particles gravity, but the pressure that is required to annihilate the particle. That higher pressure will first implode the particle before it explodes, and those gravity waves/pressure waves are detectable.<br /><br />Pressure is gravity and gravity is pressure.

 

[yevaud]

I don't believe they're looking for the presence of gravitons - they're looking for the Higg's Boson: the force mediating particle from which mass is derived.<br /><br />Now the recent Gravity B explorer, *that* was looking for the presence of gravity *waves* propagating through our space. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[jatslo]

I would like to add that smashing particles is very, VERY dangerous, because you could start something that could potentially get out of control. If your pressure induced implosion/explosion is massive enough magnitude wise, the implosion will suck surrounding particles into, thus, starting a hungry chain reaction that could ultimately eat up our solar system. Not only that, but an electrostatic charge will only add fuel to the fire. Vacuums are not clean by any means, and uncleanness is potential fuel for the fire.<br /><br />If you search hard enough, you will find evidence to support my claims. <br />

 

[kmarinas86]

<font color="yellow">because you could start something that could potentially get out of control</font><br /><br />You know what is really dangerous? Nuclear weapons. Neutron and Hydrogen Bombs. Intentionally made to destroy things, and yet they cannot gobble up the Earth. This is why I don't read novels. Unleasing energy from the atom will cause a net explosion, not an net implosion. If we want everything to merge, we make the universe absolute zero, that is, getting rid of every kinetic energy in existence while still retaining matter. But that is ludicrous, it cannot happen. By the process of bring things closer together, you make them hotter. Eventually, forces will resist this process unless you maintain greater and greater force. Even an infinite force would not do (see schwarzchild radius). There is no such thing as something that will gobble up our solarsystem other than a really big black hole at the center of the galaxy. Black holes are finite. They cannot consume infinity. That is a universal prinicple. Finite entities cannot consume the infinite.

 

[jatslo]

..."<font color="yellow">i have a problem with black holes </font>... If the center of our universe is a black hole, then why is it too bright to make out the details? Yet, black holes are also dark, but how can this be? I have a pretty good idea what is going on, but there are many flavors, and I am not sure I want to get sucked into talking about oblivion. I would rather work on gravity here and now.

 

[kmarinas86]

<font color="yellow">If the center of our universe is a <b>black</b> hole, then why is it too <b>bright</b> to make out the details?</font><br /><br />?????????<br /><br /><font color="yellow">Yet, black holes are also dark, but how can this be?</font><br /><br />It's called gravitational redshift.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift

 

[jatslo]

Why is the center of the universe bright, BRIGHT? Why is a black hole black, BLACK? So we need better clocks that measure wavelengths more accurately? Wave, wave, wave, and wave: sound, electromagnetic, pressure: wave, wave, and wave... What does light tell me about gravity? ...Wavelength, wave length... velocity, speed, viscosity... What? Wobble, wibble... Wibble Wobble... Do I need a better clock to measure wavelength? YES, among other things.

 

[j_rankin]

All the matter around the black hole is still emanating light. And there's loads of it. If there's a black hole at the centre of the universe then it will be immensely bright - like a quasar. (quasars are probably black holes)

 

[j_rankin]

"Pressure is gravity and gravity is pressure. "<br /><br />Pressure is simply when one force is applied to another.<br />Gravity is something entirely different.<br /><br />The force of gravity causes pressure; The force of magnetism causes pressure; Kinetic energy in any direction causes pressure so long as it's not in a perfect vacuum; The force of my girlfriend causes immense pressure.<br /><br />Pressure is only a resultant force caused by the nuclear forces. And my girlfriend has a huge payload.

 

[bonzelite]

i like that: you're girlfriend has immense pressure. what do you mean? she's fat? she's a nag?

 

[j_rankin]

She looks like your mother

 

[yevaud]

<i>...you're girlfriend has immense pressure.</i><br /><br />She's been consuming burritos, pickled eggs, and beer.<br /><br /><font color="red"><b>*Warning. Caution is advised*</b></font><br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[jatslo]

Congradulations, I think you described gravity as pressure and pressure as gravity, but I fail to make the connection with your girl.

 

[j_rankin]

She's like a black-hole. She sucks you in and you can't get out.