Is dark matter all it's cracked up to be?

[cosmictalk]

Took my own advice and read up on the basics ! Searching for the explaining you may need taking into account your narrow views in physics and typing blindly because of a pause major pause before my typed words come up here.<br /><br />the problem with using math to explain physics is because physics refuses to treat matter as a life that makes deicsions on attractions , repells, and of course consumptions<br /><br />here is something else I found Every force has a coupling constant<br /><br />People use these ideas as proof to a god existing. I do not do that and just because we find out that yes nature appears designed it is because of the process a slow process or fast depending on the matters that make it look designed. <br /><br />Hope that helps <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[yevaud]

Oh, my view is not narrow at all. I merely have standards of evidence and accuracy I adhere to. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[cosmictalk]

good sight! Thanks for the link!<br /><br />I've learned alot from the inflation theory.

 

[cosmictalk]

Everyone including myself has a form of narrow view I meant your directions of exceptance to what you see.<br /><br />There is evidence to lots of things that each person could take a different view to. I did not mean it as a put down! I meant it as your direction to viewing things!

 

[ceetee]

Dark matter is related to dark energy which is related to black holes or 'dark energy stars' - that's the theory. Google for George Chapline for more info. <br /><br />No idea whether its true or not but if nothing else the notion is attractive for deriving from known quantum mechanics and laboratory observations. No positing new particles and physics.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy_star

 

[bonzelite]

dark matter is symbolic of the unknown. do not forget that all of this is theoretical model building based upon <i>foundation theoretical models.</i> there is <i>absolutely no knowledge of the origin of the universe or it's struture.</i>

 

[Saiph]

well...so far math has done an impeccable job of describing matter and it's interactions. Especially since most of the material you're using is supported by, and used within, quantum mechanics which is math, and relies very little on standard common sense.<br /><br />Also, magnetism working to generate electricity in copper does have an energy source: The magnets need to be moved, and the mechanism used to move it supplies energy to the system. In a powerplant this energy is supplied by either a steam turbine (heated by burning something, or nuclear power) or by a fancy waterwheel for hydro-electric plants.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector.  Goes "bing" when there's stuff.  It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually.  I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[cosmictalk]

Palezze (trying to figure out how to do the rolling eyes) LOL!<br /><br />Everyone of those theoretics, mathmaticians , ect. admit to having failure because math brakes up (they have to brake it down to make sense) than they have to build it up to make sense)<br /><br />The problem is I have learned and read up on things and that is how I have drawn the conclusions I have.<br /><br />Duh!

 

[cosmictalk]

Palezze (trying to figure out how to do the rolling eyes) LOL!<br /><br />Everyone one of those theoretics, mathmaticians , ect. admit to having failure because math brakes up (they have to brake it down to make sense) than they have to build it up to make sense)<br /><br />The problem is I have learned and read up on things and that is how I have drawn the conclusions I have.<br /><br />Duh!

 

[cosmictalk]

your contradicting yourself and varifying what I've said about magnetism and inner working with electro and you do not need a energy source to create this only copper.

 

[cosmictalk]

TROLL REGIONS!( TRYING NOT TO LET MY ANGER FRY OUT MY ELECTRONICS AGAIN) Happens often (told I'm an electric person) LOL!<br /><br />Because my opinions are not accepted or very different from the norm you think I have no rights to them.<br /><br />I take on Einstein all the time and he is not perfect, infact he gets lost going home because of learning problems. if its wasn't for his first wife he probably would never be acknowledge the way he has.<br /><br />your the troll! Instead of attacking me come up with reasons for against my explainations. Other wise your just attacking without varification and you do not know my back ground so......... tongue sticks out.<br /><br />

 

[kmarinas86]

Copper is an energy source (since it is made of energy), but not one useful for power plant fuel.

 

[cosmictalk]

(Quantum Mechanics, ALL of which is heavily dependent upon mathematics, and which is the best, and most complete understanding of the physical world ever created. )<br /><br />Do I need get into the history of things here as well that science is only tool and helps us better understand the world just as math is. <br /><br />they do not understand completely the inner workings of what they had harnished.<br /><br />Just like the cavemen did not know the inner workings of fire that they harnished to keep them warm.<br />

 

[cosmictalk]

electrical conductance (I think your thinking that because it holds energy) <br /><br />but yes in a matter of speaking your right but were talking different properties here (physics world) creating energy

 

[cosmictalk]

well...so far math has done an impeccable job of describing matter and it's interactions. Especially since (most of the material you're using is supported by, and used within, quantum mechanics which is math, and relies very little on standard common sense. )<br /><br />never said it was .....<br />who put what words in whose mouth?<br /><br />I think your talking and taking what I said out of context<br /><br />now can we get back to the subject?<br />

 

[nova_explored]

you don't subscribe to background radiation bonz?<br /><br />Does it mean something else? Because it does fit with inflation models rather eloquently? waht else could it mean then? (that is not intended to put you on the spot btw). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[nova_explored]

cosmic:<br /><br />first, you are trolling. second, einstein is dead. stop talking about him in the present tense, that's just strange; unless you are typing to us from the 1920's as present, then i suppose that would be acceptable, and if you retort that he is alive in your conversations with him, everyone here will be a little apprehensive. <br /><br />and third, and most importantly, you are trolling.<br /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[nova_explored]

you also use strange wording and make words up. This is kind of funny, but also annoying.<br /><br />harnessed, not harnished.<br /><br />Too many prepositions and poor adjective usage.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />and now i will stop. let's get back on topic.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[drwayne]

"quantum mechanics which is math, and relies very little on standard common sense."<br /><br />Actually, much of the math of Quantum mechanics is actually quite familiar and "common sense" - for someone who has done quite a few boundary value problems and is comfortable with combinations of special functions. (The same techniques cover everyday problems)<br /><br />Some of the predictions may be at variance to everyday experience - but, interestingly enough - many are borne out by experiment.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

Ran across this this evening:<br /><br />http://www.physorg.com/news11862.html<br /><br />Headline:<br /><br />Cryogenic Phonon Scintillators to Help in Search for Dark Matter <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[nova_explored]

great link, thanks drwayne.<br /><br />the headline sounds like something out of star trek. Just add on ..."and use this as a coupling to boost our warp drive nacels." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[drwayne]

Couple in some phase inverters, and you have a tachyon field generator.<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[cosmictalk]

palezze stop with the attacks on grammer and such because i could do the same with everyone here<br /><br />lets get back on topic and share are our views not attack each other for them or do you have people stay here very long if at all? <br /><br />I see ! take and use peoples ideas as your own and scare off the person who came up with it?

 

[cosmictalk]

Cryogenic Phonon Scintillators<br /><br />Cool idea (pun intended)

 

[cosmictalk]

There are others who share my ideas with links but I do not completely agree with everything they say.<br /><br />if you have followed my explainations on the points trying to get across than you would also know that word terminology could speak for a group of meanings put together not the word itself.