<p>Oh what the heck, I'm on a roll LOL. This rant is directed at the website and its host.</p><p><font color="#008000">"Academics are currently debating whether this Shakespeare even existed, and many postulate that the works usually attributed to him were, in fact, written by someone else. His presumed existence could very well be a fabrication of the Lunar conspiracy."</font></p><p>Yeh, you would need to mention Shakespeare as the Author rather than just mention whoever else would have done this...yeh, makes sense ha ha ha. Gimme a break!</p><p><font color="#008000"> Even assuming that he <em>did</em> exist, and <em>did</em> write these lines, it is not clear at all that he is referring specifically to a celestial body 2160 miles in diameter, 240,000 miles away from the earth.</font></p><p>Right, right...he may well have been talking about the three or four other real moons in the sky. Then he goes on to reference another work of fiction, a fairy tale at that. The old Jack n Jill story. A story most likely fictional right down to the story itself. A story written for kids.</p><p><font color="#008000">In absence of any clear mention of the moon in the history of the world, it is safe to conclude that its alleged existence is nothing more than a propaganda fraud. I am, however, open-minded, and willing to consider evidence that I may have missed. If you know of a genuine mention of the moon, please forward it to me at</font>
madrev@reptiles.org. <font color="#008000">But it must meet the following conditions:</font> </p><ol><li><font color="#008000"> if the document requires translation, I must be shown clear evidence that the translator was not under any sort of institutional pressure.</font></li><li><font color="#008000"> it must be clear that the document is referring specifically to a 74,000,000,000,000,000,000 ton object 2160 miles in</font></li><li><font color="#008000"> the document must be original, as it should be clear from the above that Lunarists have engaged to so much forgery and misrepresentation up until now I have every reason not to trust the authenticity of facsimiles.</font></li><li><font color="#008000"> diameter that orbits the earth at an average distance of 240,000 miles. I will not accept a reference to a word in a language I cannot understand, with a commentary along-side that goes, "See! It's the Moon, stupid!"</font></li></ol><p><font color="#008000"> </font></p><p>The conditions above, sure he'll accept someone elses view based on these conditions. He's already ear deep in his own conspiracy idea (Assuming this is his idea). He's not going to accept any evidence as long as he's spewing this lunar hologram crap.</p><p><font color="#008000">"Need you even ask? The oldest motive in the world. Since the end of World War II, how many billions of dollars have been poured into fraudulent so-called "space exploration". And how much of that funding was justified to a gullible public by the false excitement and later euphoria generated by establishment propagandists over the fake "moon landing"? And, as we now know that these "moon landings" were staged in a studio – using cheap sets and shoddy camera equipment no less – just where have these billions gone over the years?</font></p><p>Finally, something that resembles a point to this crap and nonsense. Obviously he has no clue as to how much money is spent on spaceflight and human spaceflight. If he actually had a clue, he'd know that NASA got 2-4% GDP from the early 1960s to the early 1970s and has since been slashed to from 1%.6% GDP. Of course, hes playing on the idea stats are not to be believed so lets try common sense.</p><p>For his theory to be plausible...these conspirators from the year 1066 or whenever...would have to know that one day, there will be NASA, and we must help them bilk the American public. After all, why would we only start spending these billions after WWII?</p><p><font color="#008000">"Throughout history, hundreds of absurd fables have been circulated regarding the moon. Most of these have since been discarded. For example, people used to speak about there being "a man in the moon", or about moon being made out of cheese (as recently as last year, I saw an animated film that was still promoting this latter absurdity)." </font></p><p>Can't understand why these fables were discarded? Maybe its because they are fables and people who spoke of them wern't speaking seriously to begin with...nah, too simple and logical an explanation.</p><p><font color="#008000">"No one speaks anymore of Richard A. Locke, a newspaper reporter who wrote a fantastic but wholly fabricated account of discoveries on the moon falsely attributed to the English astronomer Sir John Herschel. Locke reported that Herschel, using a telescope 24 feet in diameter (!), saw fabulous bat-like creatures, living in elaborate cities on the lunar surface. No less a newspaper than the New York Sun printed these reports on its front page as its most important news story! The whole moon hoax is based on such fanciful tales. That’s why I doubt most of it."</font></p><p>I knew there must be some logic in this stuff somewhere, right? And here it is, base the whole concept the moon does not exist on fallacies and fairy tales of centuries past. Nobody speaks of Lowells martians either, so is mars a hoax? Whattam I saying...of course it is!</p><p><font color="#008000">"Another impossibility that has always been an embarrassment to the scientific establishment is the obvious fact that an object as heavy as the moon, caught in the earth’s gravity, would inevitably come crashing down upon us at immense speeds. Responses to this argument from the Lunarists have always been weak, and always couched in that scientific newspeak designed to confuse the sincere questioner without actually saying anything."</font></p><p>Now comes the sadly pathetic attempts at using science against itself. From what I can recall, the moon is gradually moving away from earth becasue IT IS so far away! If it were much closer, it would eventually crash into the earth or be broken apart by the forces described in the Roche limit theory. Oh wait, I know...you don't want these little things to be mentioned because your promoting a conspiracy...silly me.</p><p>Scientists might one day find there may have been some error in our understanding of how gravitational forces interact between large bodies...but because we don't fully understand them now does not mean the moon is a hologram.</p><p><font color="#008000">"However, even the most fanatical Lunarists no longer cling to the absurd notion that objects in the solar system travel in concentric circles."</font></p><p>And how long ago has it been since this idea was discared? Did you say centuries, well why not? Most people who subscribed to the idea of orbits being concentric circles died centuries ago...oh there I go again, getting in the way of a bad conspiracy. I'd never credit this crap with being a good conspiracy. Nine year olds could come up with way better crap than this.</p><p><font color="#008000">"The authorities expect us to believe a story that is prima facie absurd, and has been proven absurd by simple mathematical calculations. Yet they do not give us a single piece of reliable forensic evidence, nor an argument put forward by any expert free from institutional pressure."</font></p><p>Sure couldn't be you and this silly nonsense promoting this to eventually make a buck, or even just so you can be part of the "Conspiracies is cool" crowd. It is you who expect gullible people to believe this stuff. It is you who expect us to believe the moon is a hologram. It is you who expect us to believe no single peice of evidence is put out by the scientific community.</p><p><font color="#008000">"A cash reward of <strong><font size="+2">$100,000</font></strong> has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed."</font></p><p>Yeh sure. It remains unclaimed (Assuming it even exists) because your not going to give out money that violates your pet belief.</p><p><font color="#008000">"Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at:"</font></p><p>If you really believe this, I'm not going to try to prove it. If you really believe the public at large is stupid enough to believe it, sadly your probably right and congratulations, you might just become a millionaire on selling such idiocy. Oh yeh, the photo evidence page...what a joke!</p><p>This guy makes Richard Hoaglands Hoagwash seem downright credible! Ew boy, I didnt just say that did I...gettin late, reality check needed LOL. </p><p>Well, in all fairness this guy did speak one line of truth:</p><p>He is a mad revisionist.</p><p>And truth be known, may even be doing this just to have fun. Knowing he'll get more public attention in one minute than credible scientists can in a lifetime. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>